Wow is this debate not getting old to anyone? It's like religious people are unable to convert people using the traditional methods of threats of eternal damnation and so forth anymore, so have resorted to trying to use science to try and prove that God exists. They make comments about how the world works in perfect harmony, and that that is 100% proof of God. When really it's proof that the world works in perfect harmony and nothing else. It's like they have a severe lack of understanding of what science and proof actually is. Not one person has ever been able to copy and paste a verse out of the Quran that has shown some kind of incredible insight or unbelievably advanced information. The fact that rain only appears when clouds are around is certainly not some privileged information, but rather an accurate observation which I would hope would be apparent to anyone after a few experiences of rain.