Victor..before jumping please read what has been posted and you will save yourself and the rest some time and effort..I know where you coming from because i started just like you did...

Once you read what has been posted, you will the see the logic and the theories of people who don't believe in God...you may then be more effective in your argument..

You may challenge as you see fit..

My approach for now is to debate as humans to humans based on science and logic...

Next approach..I plan..to be using religion..