one_shot: your post yesterday was that Hawkins had no proof. I asked for your and you said that you had read somewhere in a book that Hawkins was wrong and that was all you needed. Now you blather on and one about clouds and mountains and oceans, picking and choosing bits that back up what you have already decided to believe. You state that Hawkins (who you clearly have not read) is just writing his opinions. I suggest that you follow your own advice and read his book rather than posting more blather.