the reason i posted the link was that you immediately commented 'uncivilised West' and I was trying to point out that this happens everywhere, even in your country that is obviously far more civilised because throwing babies out of windows is far less evil than shaking one to death right? I do have a life and if you see most of my threads here is that I am sick of what is going on in my country (the evil UK) but i do not try to hide it, unlike some. Now if you believed that your comment 'uncivilised West' would not get a response then your head is further up your arse than i thought. Now show some respect to the OP and this little child and stop trying to turn this into another oh so boring East v West rant.I ask you to answer a simple question to which you can find no simple answer so discussion with you is now over.