Temporary NOC

hamsafar
By hamsafar

HI,
hw many kinds of NOC 'S are there? and what do we mean by a temporary NOC.Kindly enlighten.

By whardz• 29 Dec 2010 08:15
whardz

hi Saleem,

i think you can give me right answer on my problem. im working with my previous sponsor for more than 2 years but not under their sponsorship. it was newly transferred last july 2010, since the company did not get another projects my contract was not renewed and it ended last october 2010. i got offer from other company, since my visa is not completing 1 year this new company arranging temporary transfer for me and hopefully i will be starting early next year. but now i received better offer from another company, so my question is would it be possible for this company to apply another temporary sponsorship for me? can you give me some advice what would be the best solution on this? my previous sponsor is willing to give any NOC they want.

thank you in advance for your advice...

whardz

By hamsafar• 23 Nov 2008 11:40
hamsafar

i was working in qatar for 2yrs ,i left doha its only 9 months.my sister stays here with her family .i m already on a visit (tourist visa)my Noc was used to get me my visa.if i need to visit againor take up a job here what should i do?kindly guide me.

thanks n regards.

By saleemshajahan• 17 Nov 2008 22:45
saleemshajahan

no medicine for jealous.

By saleemshajahan• 17 Nov 2008 22:43
saleemshajahan

Poor guy.

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 13:00
qatarisun

:)

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By Amoud• 17 Nov 2008 12:54
Amoud

:) and I am actually Canadian married to an Arab... we have a bit in common then (from your posts you are canadian by immigration right?)

I keep my hubby pretty close. I ensure he has neither the time nor money to remarry :)

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 12:51
qatarisun

Amoud..LOL... looks like we are at the same boat.. i hope we don't share the same husband though.. :)

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 12:50
qatarisun

well. these days you really have to be a high-level professional in immigration field to get things done

and actually i know someone who is highly professional, and he can get "ungettable", and which saleemshajahan claims to be impossible.... :):)

that's why when this pathetic saleemshajahan started "enlightening" me regarding the rules, i left the thread.. I am just wondering how saleemshajahan can offer his services to people since all he can answer: you cannot do this and you cannot do that... people with the special cases need someone who is highly professional and who actually CAN get the things done, instead of hearing, you CANNOT all the time..

Vivo Bonito.. perhaps someone should know people's rights... and to have a sense of the business he is doing..why one lawyer wins the case and another looses it?? simple. coz the first one is Professional, and another either stupid to understand or lazy to look deeply into the law! the one is lucky who managed to find the First lawyer, and to avoid the second one!

as same as with any other business. Why one can get things done easy, and another trying to do the same and constantly fails?

khalas, i am out of here...I will keep my energy for some better stuff to do..

yeah, pathetic saleemshajahan.. i think you have to start from getting the glasses for yourself.. i think my pic on the avator is clear enough...:)

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By Amoud• 17 Nov 2008 12:47
Amoud

Qatarisun... I am thankful for these guys.... means the big guys come to my husband when these little guys mess it up :)

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By Amoud• 17 Nov 2008 12:17
Amoud

Lol Qatrisun, I am starting to think a lot of new laws and such have been passed. Temporary NOC's and Exit Permits....

I had one guy come to our office once and give us a brilliant idea... there should be a standard exit permit, one the sponsor doesnt have to sign and we can issue it anytime we need it. Defeats the purpose doesnt it?

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 12:07
qatarisun

Amoud, dear, you are talking to DEAF people (or BLIND, i would say)..don't waste your energy..

I gave up.. even this saleemshajahan who claims to be "professional" in the immigration field, say nonsense.. so...

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By Amoud• 17 Nov 2008 11:34
Amoud

Catch you are missing the point.

He had no RP, so no need for an NOC.

Exit permit doesnt matter, and if he was here on a visit visa it is also not needed. He must have been here on a business visa.

He needs to clear this with his employer. Something is not right with this situation. If he had no RP he doesnt need an NOC. If his previous employer issued an exit permit he either had to have had an RP or was here on business visa. If he was here on business visa, there is also no need for an NOC as it is not allowed to work here on either a visit or business visa.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By catch22• 17 Nov 2008 10:17
catch22

His current employer already know that he was working here before , and the current employer is aware of exit permit too ,

current employer needs him and appreciate his work .

so , what should he do now .?

Regards //

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 06:53
qatarisun

edited

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By qatarisun• 17 Nov 2008 06:53
qatarisun

edited

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By saleemshajahan• 16 Nov 2008 23:39
saleemshajahan

Hi,

Yes. Possible .

By saleemshajahan• 16 Nov 2008 23:31
saleemshajahan

Hi

Please communicate --- [email protected]

By Amoud• 16 Nov 2008 19:25
Rating: 5/5
Amoud

Catch there is also no such thing as a temporary exit permit. An exit permit is an exit permit, there are 2 kinds, one is a multi exit permit which costs around QR 500 which is valid for a year. The other is a single exit permit which is valid for one exit only (it used to be free but I think maybe it is QR 50 or so now).

Let him tell his new employer he never had an exit permit here before and was only here on a visit visa. This should clear it up.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By catch22• 16 Nov 2008 18:13
catch22

Dear Amoud ;

i appreciate your replay ,

he stayed for about 1 month with the previous employer and left Qatar , they gave him temprary Exit permit ,

is that Temp. Exit permit the cause of the problem .?

should he have Final Exit permit .?

after he left Qatar he had new offer and went back to doha , but current employer told him that he has to get NOC from previous Employer .

can you explain if that is true from current employer .?

Aprreciate your reply.

Kind Regards //

By Amoud• 16 Nov 2008 15:31
Amoud

Innocent.... family visas dont need an NOC. Your sister cannot sponsor you to come on a 6 month visa. She is here under her husband sponsorship and she cannot sponsor anyone, he would have to do it and as he is not your direct relative he cant do it.

Catch, if he had no RP he doesnt need an NOC. How is he still here in the first place? If he is under a business visa from the previous employer no other visa can be issued for him.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By anonymous• 12 Nov 2008 15:34
anonymous

saleem..one more question..if i have a married sister in doha, can she sponsor me for 6 months visit visa? even if i dont have noc from my previous company?

By hamsafar• 11 Nov 2008 23:34
hamsafar

mr saleem shahjahan,is it possible to get in touch with you?can i have your mobile number please.

Thanks n Regards

By anonymous• 11 Nov 2008 19:27
anonymous

ok thanks a lot..

By catch22• 11 Nov 2008 18:37
Rating: 2/5
catch22

Dear QATARISUN;

Hi all ;

today one of my friends is working now in Qatar ,

his current Employer told him that RP can not be processed further and they need NOC from previous Employer. my friend worked with that previous employer just for less than one month and he did not do RP while that, and while his work with the previous Employer his stay was based on the Bussiness Visit Visa he had from that previous Employer.

he got another offer and cameback to qatar, now he is facing that problems and mey return home back.

it seems NOC is needed even you have Bussiness Visit Visa . RP or cancellation is not the case.

Regards //

By saleemshajahan• 11 Nov 2008 08:51
saleemshajahan

Dear qatarisun,

please read the question carefully. It was a question of a family visa holder i.e she was under husband visa . No need NOC from husband to enter doha for employment. Please read the question and answer clearly before spray your comments. This site is to give clear information to the expats.

By qatarisun• 10 Nov 2008 21:23
Rating: 2/5
qatarisun

you contradict yourself..

you said earlier:

-According to new rule implemented last december the airport authorities strictly required no objection letter ( from the old company )along with the business visa application

and then:

-No need NOC. You can come back on business visit or tourist

...you guys mix all together and it really sounds funny...

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By saleemshajahan• 10 Nov 2008 21:03
saleemshajahan

Hi Innocent,

No need NOC. You can come back on business visit or tourist ( only for approved nationals)

By anonymous• 10 Nov 2008 18:19
anonymous

this was implemented Dec 2008? about the CID knowing that ur back in Qatar.. would they immediately deport u or take u to prison first? sorry for the silly question. but i need to know..thanks

By anonymous• 10 Nov 2008 18:17
anonymous

Amoud, one more question, lets say, im under husband sponsorship and he cancelled my RP, do i need an NOC from my husband to come back to DOha? can i even come back on a visit visa?

By saleemshajahan• 9 Nov 2008 09:03
saleemshajahan

Hi,

Amoud is correct. According to new rule implemented last december the airport authorities strictly required no objection letter ( from the old company )along with the business visa application . But people are arranging business visas without NOC using some unofficial support. The problem is if the old sponsor come to know that your are in doha without his NOC then immediately he will complaint you to the CID and the candidate would be deported immediately .

By Amoud• 8 Nov 2008 21:37
Amoud

New law innocent, you cant even come back on a visit visa for 2 years after you left without an OC

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By anonymous• 8 Nov 2008 20:51
anonymous

so saleem, would u be so kind to answer all my questions about my situation? i just left the country 1st Nov bec i was cancelled and prev sponsor wont give me an NOC..i understand that i cannot come back to Doha until 2yrs..is there any possible ways to come back? visit visa or whatevER? pls advise..

By USAexpat• 8 Nov 2008 20:05
Rating: 4/5
USAexpat

Everything us flexible here... Sure, there may be laws and rules but if your sponsor doesn't want to follow them, you are just screwed... Yep, modern slavery...

By Vivo Bonito• 8 Nov 2008 19:22
Vivo Bonito

i will agree with saleem....

perhaps it was so happened only that the personal case of QS... was being granted due to the graceful release of her previous sponsor... we called it... there are tiny holes could peek in every rules..

i partly believe even in experiences... but i truly believe to what in the MOI rules and policies contained.

By Amoud• 8 Nov 2008 19:00
Amoud

Saleem is correct on this one... a business visa does also have a sponsor as they can only be issued by companies... and you cannot change your sponsorship before a year.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By saleemshajahan• 8 Nov 2008 18:58
saleemshajahan

Dear Friend,

You are a poor guy and dont tell the false story to me because i am working in ministry of interior and there is no rule in our ministry to allow you do sponsorship transfer after four months.

You cannot convert business visa status to work visa without NOC i.e in arabic عدم ممانع من نقل تاشيرة . Try to understand there are lot of rules in interior.

By qatarisun• 8 Nov 2008 12:42
Rating: 2/5
qatarisun

no innocent, unfortunately bank cannot order any company to issue your a NOC letter. They have nothing to do with that. Try to contact Human Rights in Doha. Explain the situation. See how they can help you. good luck.

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By anonymous• 8 Nov 2008 10:19
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

apparently u are right about all these stuff..i have a friend also in the same situation , on a business visa and after 2 months she transfered her sponsorship to her new company w/out exiting Doha..and yah no NOC needed for business visas..

By anonymous• 8 Nov 2008 10:11
anonymous

hi Qatarisun..i've tried asking nicely to me prev. sponsor already..but they wont..the thing is..i have a loan in the bank.. and i informed the company and the bank as well when i got cancelled..but nobody bothered to care .. can the bank ask my prev company which is my previous sponsor to give me an NOC so i can work in another company to pay my loan? your answer is very much appreciated..

By GodFather.• 8 Nov 2008 01:50
GodFather.

a letter from your employer saying that he has No Object to you applying for another job..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By qatarisun• 8 Nov 2008 00:29
Rating: 5/5
qatarisun

1. it's a big mess in your mind...you mixed everything… 33 countries which you are talking about have nothing to do with the Business visa, sponsorship, NOC letter, exit permits, etc. Citizens of these countries obtain a VISIT visa at the airport, nothing else…

2. if you came to qatar on BUSINESS visa , and you DID NOT get a residency with this company, and later you got an offer from other company for the permanent job, you DO NOT NEED a NOC letter from the company which issued a BUSINESS visa for you. They are only the company who invited you to Qatar on business visa (well, you can call them sponsor BUT only for the time of business visa validity) ...IF YOU DO NOT HAVE an RP WITH THEM, you DO NOT need a NOC letter from them! I hope it's clear for you.

3. Now. I know some people (including myself) who changed their sponsor BEFORE completing 1 year with one company. I hope it is also clear for you: I personally started working with one company, completed an RP with them, then in 4-5 months got an offer from another company, nicely asked my first sponsor for the NOC letter, nicely been granted (with a big sadness and only after I promised to visit this sponsor once in a while), then without even leaving Qatar, I transferred my sponsorship, and currently I am happily working with another company for over a year now...

so "My dear".. oh not.. my NOT DEAR AT ALL...

'there are lot of rules and regulations'.. too sad:

1. you don't know your rights

2. your brain is so small that you cannot even assume that you might sound silly…

Now go and laugh, or better cry, at yourself..

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By saleemshajahan• 7 Nov 2008 23:17
Rating: 3/5
saleemshajahan

Hi Qatarisun,

I laughed myself and others too looking your comment. Only 33 countries allowed to enter doha upon visa on arrival and GCC residents with business supportive profession allowed on GCC resident visa for 28 days. It is not possible to get into Qatar on business visit visa without sponsor either asian or european. So you need NOC from the business visa sponsor.

Doha residents less than one year is not allowed to do sponsorship transfer. If the government is not allowing you to do the transfer before the announced period then there is no use for NOC.

My dear there are lot of rules and regulations.

Hope it is clear for you .

By heero_yuy2• 7 Nov 2008 12:31
heero_yuy2

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

By qatarisun• 7 Nov 2008 12:22
Rating: 2/5
qatarisun

no heero.. it's rather like, ok, go to work for another company temporary, and then come back to our company...

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By heero_yuy2• 7 Nov 2008 12:20
heero_yuy2

It's like saying half of the certificate says the employer still 'object' to your resignation and half of it doesn't. LOL

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

By qatarisun• 7 Nov 2008 12:08
qatarisun

saleemshajahan

1.if you are on business visa, you don't have any sponsor, therefore you don't need any NOC from anybody.

2.as per your "secondly" and "finally", they are different CASES, but the NOC letter in the SAME: NO Objection Certificate.

3.you say:"if you are a doha resident for more than a year..". and what about those who are a doha residents for less than a year? don't they need a NOC letter? they DO need it, and again it will be exactly as same NOC letter as in first two cases.

The idea of the NOC letter is to confirm, that the current sponsor doesn't mind you to work for another company. that's it. then it's up to you: to stay in the country and to move to another company right away, or to leave Qatar and to find another job from your home country. Your previous employer and his NOC letter have nothing to do with that.

and you, innocent, can try to obtain a NOC letter from your ex-sponsor. Contact them, ask nicely, maybe they will grant it to you. then you can find another job and come back in qatar.

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By saleemshajahan• 7 Nov 2008 10:30
Rating: 5/5
saleemshajahan

There are total three kinds of NOC and there is no any temporary NOC.

Suppose if your are on business visit visa and there is a chance to get an employment visa except than the visit visa sponsor you may need to provide no objection letter from the current sponsor to the new sponsor secondly if you are a doha resident for more than a year and if your sponsor agrees to move to another sponsor there you need a no objection from the sponsor and finally if your visa been cancelled by the employer and if he allows you to enter doha before the completion of two years then you need a no objection letter from the sponsor along with the isthishna application to be forwarded to the immigration by the new sponsor.

By anonymous• 7 Nov 2008 05:26
anonymous

tnx for the info...that's sad news *sob sob*

By Amoud• 6 Nov 2008 19:47
Amoud

Sorry Innocent, without an NOC you cant even come back on a visit visa now until the 2 years is up.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By anonymous• 6 Nov 2008 18:48
anonymous

Amoud and Saadi and Qatarisun, i have a very big prblem..i just left Doha last Nov 1st bec my Rp has been cancelled by my sponsor and worse is they're not giving me an NOC..i understand from other people that i can only come back after 2 yrs and some say 6 months..which is true? i really want to go back to Doha .. can i come on a business visa or visit visa? please help..

By Amoud• 2 Nov 2008 08:03
Amoud

Saadi, no one can just change their sponsorship without exiting and entering on the new visa....

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By saadi703• 30 Oct 2008 19:33
saadi703

Well, yes those rules looks crap and modern slavary to us but they are beneficial to them so they gonna stay here for long, no matter how you look at them and what you think about them. They have the money so they are driving people.

By heero_yuy2• 30 Oct 2008 19:14
heero_yuy2

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

By saadi703• 30 Oct 2008 18:56
saadi703

then why people have to leave even if they do have NOC? I have seen people who have to leave and come back on new visa even they do have NOC and new sponsor as well. They even dont want to exit the country but they have to. Some people do it without exit.

By qatarisun• 30 Oct 2008 13:49
Rating: 4/5
qatarisun

they are the same things. it's up to you to go back home and start looking for the new job from there, or to transfer your sponsorship while stay in Qatar in case you have got a new job yet.

Amoud, you don't have to leave the country even.

Just get a NOC, new job and max they will ask you to pay QR500 which equal to the air fare to Bahrain AS IF you left the country.

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By Amoud• 30 Oct 2008 13:24
Amoud

Saadi, is the picture different? :)

There is 1 NOC here, thats it. You will have to leave the country no matter what to change over to the new visa, if you go to your home country thats up to you. The NOC has nothing to do with the exit.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By saadi703• 29 Oct 2008 19:10
saadi703

By the way amoud, have you changed your display picture or avatar whatever you call it?

By saadi703• 29 Oct 2008 19:09
Rating: 4/5
saadi703

I believe they are different and also it depends on the company whether they allow you to transfer your sponsorship to someone else name without exit or send you back home and you have to come on new visa.

At least this is my understanding. I have gone through a process of NOC earlier in Saudi.

By Amoud• 25 Oct 2008 16:15
Amoud

Saadi arent they the same thing? They are not classified in 2 groups.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By hamsafar• 25 Oct 2008 15:35
hamsafar

Thanks Saadi703

By saadi703• 25 Oct 2008 00:24
Rating: 5/5
saadi703

There are only two type of NOC. One is used when you want to change your sponsor. This letter is mostly called release letter. The second type of NOC allow you to go back to your home country and come under a new sponsor / employer.

By saadi703• 25 Oct 2008 00:22
saadi703

Never heard of it.

By Amoud• 21 Oct 2008 21:52
Amoud

I dont think there is such thing as a pemp NOC... what would it entail? That your sponsor has no objection to you changing sponsors until it suits him otherwise?

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By [email protected]• 21 Oct 2008 21:24
Rating: 4/5
noemi_1226@yahoo.com

No Objection Certificate from your employer.

By hamsafar• 21 Oct 2008 21:06
hamsafar

Thanks.Can the others b of any help!

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