92-year old's Marriage

avinis
By avinis

The Egyptian authorities have banned a 92-year-old man from marrying a 17-year-old girl, the Egyptian al-Akhbar newspaper has reported.

The ministry of justice invoked a law which says the age gap between spouses should not exceed 25 years.

Egypt brought in the law prohibiting the marriage of elderly men to very young girls during the Gulf oil boom.

It was an effort to prevent wealthy men from the Gulf states seeking young poor brides from the Egyptian countryside.

Not much is known about the 92-year-old man who tried to marry an Egyptian girl of 17 except that he is an Arab from the Gulf.

An Egyptian justice official said by refusing to endorse their marriage it would now be impossible for the girl to travel abroad with her husband.

However, in special cases, the justice ministry does allow foreign men to marry Egyptian women more than 25 years their junior if they deposit a very large sum of money in the name of their wife at the Egyptian National Bank.

Both husband and wife also have to report in person to the ministry which checks their marriage is genuine to prevent any kind of trafficking in women.

According to the al-Akhbar newspaper, 173 such marriages were allowed in the past year after the foreign husband deposited a sum equivalent to about US $8,000 and was screened.

By Frances Harrison
BBC News

By Winn• 16 Jun 2008 13:53
Winn

LOL..Gypsy I would say the clergy found a way to use relegion to manipulate people.

The lure of heaven and the threat of hell...!!

Or should I say Greed and fear?

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 13:43
Gypsy

What?

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By DaRuDe• 16 Jun 2008 13:42
DaRuDe

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By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 13:41
Gypsy

Religion is a way to manipulate and control people. Nothing more.

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By Winn• 16 Jun 2008 13:40
Winn

Wudnt say relegion is stupid coz all of em contain profound truths. But yeah relegion is defenitely a cumbersome wrap for those truths.

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 13:30
Gypsy

well it's more then likely related to the phrase Thank God, but less religious like.

I find all religion stupid, for want of a better word, not Islam in particular.

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By a merry can muslim• 16 Jun 2008 13:17
a merry can muslim

I know linguistically what it is classified as. I have just never heard an explanation to its meaning.

Is it aspects of Islam you find strange or the actions and speech of certain Muslims?

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By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 13:07
Gypsy

It's a figure of speech.

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By a merry can muslim• 16 Jun 2008 13:05
a merry can muslim

How do you thank goodness? Can you physically explain that to me?

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By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 10:58
Gypsy

Nope :) Thank goodness for that!

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By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 10:51
Gypsy

I find most parts of Islam sad. Different points of view I suppose.

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By princess habibah• 16 Jun 2008 10:35
princess habibah

Right on to Egypt for banning this type of marriage. Sad to say but in Islam a women does not inherit more than 1/8th of her husbands estate on his death. Her only chance is to be given lots of presents during his lifetime. Which in most cases will not happen because he will need to keep her "trapped."

I think you all have points on this thread. Especially gypsy. We need to stop pitting women against each other and relish who we are as human beings with different ways of communication.

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

By KellysHeroes• 16 Jun 2008 09:11
KellysHeroes

Thought the marriage is banned coz the girl is under-age and not coz of the age difference

 

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By Gypsy• 16 Jun 2008 08:45
Gypsy

Philly if you read the whole thread you would see that that is my respone to Ramada constantly saying I've been insulting Asian women, which I haven't been doing. I have been saying over and over and over again that men should stop trying to pit Western and Asian women against each other, that women are women regardless of which background they come from and that we have enough problems to deal with without fighting amongst ourselves in a vain attempt to be 'perfect' women.

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By Winn• 16 Jun 2008 08:43
Winn

Guess you are right, brit. But just another two bits of mine before I leave.

Whoever thinks Asian women are docile n all, should meet some of the spitfires I've had the 'honor' of being friends (read both fighting and havin good times)with during my college years n evn now....the whole idea/stereotype of the non-aggressive Asian women would be wiped out in no time!!

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

By anonymous• 16 Jun 2008 08:41
anonymous

britexpat..don't ruin our fun!!!

By britexpat• 16 Jun 2008 08:28
britexpat

May i suggest that we let this thread run its course now.. I think everyone has voiced their opinions and where they stand on the matter..

Abu American.. One last question..

In you earlier posting, You say "Even I don't want one. I got the best German there was and ran, I get married again and it wont be to a westerner."

I thought you "were" married!

By PhillyEagles2007• 16 Jun 2008 08:03
PhillyEagles2007

Um ok...so yes I guess if you want to hear it then you're wife is wonderfully subserviant and she lives only for you and being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. And obviously she is a thousand times better then Western women, who are arrogant divas, because she (lol) got a gem like you. There you happy now?

Isn't this comment a great example of what you said I was doing? Hmmm. I know you will say you were only being sarcastic to make your point but you need to lay off the hater ade! Might I also suggest a 12 step program at haters anonymous. However I can see how my original post makes it seem like I was instigating so my bad.

Anyway there is a difference between being a diva and being independent. My wife (who is an American Muslimah) works, shares her opinions yet she isn't a diva. So my posts weren't intended as a damning judgement of western women. I respect any woman from any part of the world who is holdin it down and taking care of her business. So we should accordingly not assume that just because Asian women appear to be more docile, they are just doormats for their husbands.

My beef is that certain women in response to the wrongs of the past have taken a stance that makes them no better then the men they accuse of are responding to. In reality Allah created us to be in need of each other. Any reasonable man won't be complete without a woman and vice verse. So if we all were more concerned about how to please our own spouses, and stopped hatin on other people's relationships we would all be happier.

By Ramada• 16 Jun 2008 03:32
Ramada

Only Abu American got the point! Are any of you here familiar with the phrase 'Hoist by one's own petard'? Well look it up ladies(?), then look at your posts and know that you have well and truly hoisted yourselves.

Now as Abu suggests, I'm going to leave you all to your petty little selves in your cosy little chat room and disappear into the blue yonder. I would like to say it was nice to know you all, I'd like to say that but...

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Ramada• 16 Jun 2008 01:10
Ramada

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Ramada• 16 Jun 2008 00:54
Ramada

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 20:44
a merry can muslim

Dude, what did you use the Green Destiny?

That Lenny Kravitz song used to be my anthem... American woman... stay away from me!

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By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 20:44
anonymous

sad,sad,sad......

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 19:40
anonymous

Ramada, remove the big chip perlease or get some psychotherapy you're beginning to sound like a bloody psychopath and its quite disturbing.......

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 19:35
anonymous

I wish u had some C.S

lol

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 18:34
Gypsy

Strangest part Winn is I never even made any sterotypes about Asian women and this guy just went off. Obviously he's got some deep seated issues with Western women. :S Really good luck to his poor wife.

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By Winn• 15 Jun 2008 18:11
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Winn

Well, Ramada aren't you doing the same thing

(to supernurse n gypsy) you get sick n tired of ppl doing with your wife.("I get sick and tired of the prejudice and stereotyping she is sometimes subjected to, usually by europeans and mostly by brits."). I'm talking abt the freebie/pickup thing u mentioned above. So whats the difference between you n the ppl u r 'sick n tired of'?

As to Western Men marrying Asian women, do we need to generalise? Maybe western men travel more than their female counterparts...i mean more as in more number of men, so more of w.men marry asian women than w.women marrying a.men

Maybe they tend to get fascinated by a person from an alien culture.

Or may be its just abt two individuals meeting at some part of the world n hitting it off.

Do we need to look for patterns in how a human being connects with another?

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

By Winn• 15 Jun 2008 18:09
Winn

As for the news item here, yeah...what this man needs is a nurse!

I think in most countries, consummation of this marriage(if it happens)would be called 'rape' and rightly so. The question of consent doesnt arise with a minor.

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 17:36
Ramada

Away to the bar for a few freebies and a quick pick-up is it? You better express your opinions with some respect in the future, instead of applying the gutter language, morality and idealogy of whatever cr**holes you were brought up in to other people.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Happy Happy• 15 Jun 2008 17:25
Happy Happy

Very truthful opinion you have there. But I'm not being idealistic or anything. If Gov. is unable to protect and assist its people, then it should simply shut up and not enforce this ban, simply because the girl can sell herself cheaper down the street. Think of all the indignity and diseases out of this mess.

It also happens in developed counties, as many master this kind of (scam) marriage out of greed not poverty. How many old women are marrying young boys and vice versa?

The age difference in the Article is still overwhelmingly disgusting me!

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 17:16
Ramada

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By britexpat• 15 Jun 2008 17:11
Rating: 5/5
britexpat

I think you are being very idealistic. It would be nice, but it will never happen.

Whilst I was working in Saudi Arabia, there were many cases of Older Saudis going off to Egypt or India and marrying much younger women - usually by offering a large dowry to the family.. Most times, the guy would come back after a while and leave the poor woman in her home country..

By Happy Happy• 15 Jun 2008 17:02
Happy Happy

Despite the fact that I am totally against the government interfering in the personal lives of their people, i.e the right to choice and opinion, yet I see the case is a true violation and at all levels unacceptable for an old fossil to marry a green child!!.

Along with the ban, the Gov. should set a regulation to have to send a social worker for investigation and provide a suitable financial assistance or create source of income, if poverty is evident. (Some marry too old women or men although they are not poor)

As for the money deposit in banks by the old foreign husband planning to marry a young woman, I've never heard about that before, in my country. If true, it's humiliating indeed because it is an official trafficking regulated by the Gov. even if intentions are meant for the protection of the girl and her family.

May none of us live the moment where they have to sell themselves or their loved ones for survival.

Salaam

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:54
Ramada

There are a couple of cartloads of cud on their way to you, remember to chew 'side to side' in proper bovine fashion won't you?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:44
Ramada

Sorry not yet, I'm too busy with this pair of idiots at the moment.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:40
Ramada

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:39
Ramada

And no intelligent man would put up with yours...By the way I'm very happy to return the stereotype compliment in the spirit in which it was given, you really are a pair of bovine idiots...

Is somebody actually employing you? If so are you paid in cash or in cud?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:36
Gypsy

I don't generalize i2kreative. I really don't see any difference in the attitudes of Western or Asian women, other then the attitudes we have to put on to please men.

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By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:35
anonymous

Lol Gypsy, sounds like it....Ramada you have a massive chip on your shoulder that you need to shed, pretty quickly.......

By DaRuDe• 15 Jun 2008 16:34
DaRuDe

carry on carry on

1 man vs 3 women

western wife asian wife

i need african wife plz any around.

 

 

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By MollyfromCanada• 15 Jun 2008 16:34
MollyfromCanada

if some middle aged Western guy marries a lovely young Asian woman...yahoo!!!!! The motives may be judged but I've seen many less than attractive older guys find a lot of happiness with their new partners and a chance to be a Dad for the first time for some. Maybe the women do get some perks they wouldn't have had otherwise but who is to say who deserves what in this crazy world. I learned many years ago that I am not here to judge others nor do I begrudge them whatever happiness they can find. Live and let live.

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:34
Gypsy

LOL, oh no here's the best part:

"And as for pro's, where will both of you be tonight? Trying to pick up some guy who doesn't know any better no doubt? Maybe get a few drinks and a meal out of him? Maybe dump him after giving him false expectations? Ask yourself who are the pro's?!"

So what Ramada is saying here, is that Western women go out on a date and lead the men on (aka: don't sleep with them) whereas Asian women don't do this. So I guess what he's saying is Asian women sleep with every guy who buys them dinner?

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By i2kreativ• 15 Jun 2008 16:34
i2kreativ

Gypsy do u mean westrn women are arrogant

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By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:31
anonymous

oh ffs Ramada......you sound like a such a lovely person.....no western woman would put up with your crap.........

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:30
Ramada

Speculate? Furthest from the truth? My wife is asian and I know what I'm talking about. What is your excuse?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:29
Gypsy

Um ok...so yes I guess if you want to hear it then you're wife is wonderfully subserviant and she lives only for you and being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. And obviously she is a thousand times better then Western women, who are arrogant divas, because she (lol) got a gem like you. There you happy now?

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By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:27
anonymous

anyway, Ramada, you speaking from experience....being led on to buy a drink and a meal lol....nah not my style...I earn enough to pay my own way, thanks for the STEREOTYPE.......

By i2kreativ• 15 Jun 2008 16:26
i2kreativ

Many place it is happening

Very poor parents forcing their daughters to get wealthy people,

But i dont think it healthy sign,

the girls doesn't have any choice who cares abt all these

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By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:26
Ramada

You are a f***ing idiot, and I rest my case.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:25
anonymous

Ramada, you speculate and happen to be furthest from the truth......a word to the wise here...if you take everything so personally you will self combust on here....subjects are usually inflammatory and raise heated discussion but its not a personal slight on anyone.......get over it...

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:22
Gypsy

Ramada get a clue, I'mn telling you to stop with silly sterotypes that make Asian women and Western women feel like they're competing with each other, and what do you do, respond with more streotypes. Good job genius.

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By Harry99• 15 Jun 2008 16:21
Harry99

You have hit the nail on the head. Many of these women are looking to get a better life for themselves and their families. There is nothing wrong with that. You could say that it is a form of "arranged" marriage.

If at the end of the day, both parties are happy, then where is the harm?

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:20
Ramada

You implicitly insult my wife every time you post your stupid ideas of what an asian woman actually is! Unfortunately, you are both too stupid to realise it. And as for pro's, where will both of you be tonight? Trying to pick up some guy who doesn't know any better no doubt? Maybe get a few drinks and a meal out of him? Maybe dump him after giving him false expectations? Ask yourself who are the pro's?!

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By abynel• 15 Jun 2008 16:11
abynel

well said Mr. Ramada...i adore you for standing up for you wife. God Bles you both and may you stay happy together forever

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:10
anonymous

actually, having read the male prospective of these relationships it sounds as if these women are nothing but live in paid prostitutes cum housemaids......nice...

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 16:08
anonymous

ok, i'll change...I'll be submissive, I'll cook clean look after baby AND bring in a better wage than my husband...I'll be devoid of any personality......and then my hubby will bugger orf...yeah, thats good.....you know, there are men that actually enjoy a banter with their wives, enjoy women that make them laugh and prefer women not to be submissive, IMHO that would make for an exceedingly boring marriage.....

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:07
Gypsy

I'm sorry, when did I racially insult your wife? When I said men should stop trying to make Western women and Asian women compete by spreading falicies, generalizations and sterotyping?

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By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 16:05
Ramada

Well said, most of these girls have nothing and no hope for the future, but you will never manage to explain their true situation to anyone who has not seen it for themselves.

And as for you Gypsy, you are the one reinforcing cultural sterotypes, not me! Anyone who racially insults or stereotypes my wife is going to take the immediate and serious consequences.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 16:02
Gypsy

Your aim was not to play on sterotypes, yet you said

"So the bottom line is that western women have some competition which is here to stay. Stop crying, get used to it, and step your game up"

Basically telling Western women to stop being independent (Divas) and start being more submissive (Like Asian women, who according to you are only: concerned about making their husbands happy) . Good job not playing to the sterotypes.

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By PhillyEagles2007• 15 Jun 2008 15:58
PhillyEagles2007

My aim was not to be play to the stereotypes. However I don't understand why as westerners we are so judgemental of people from other places. It is true we have been exposed to many things that people in other parts of the world can only dream of. However we seem to have this notion that if people don't do things the western way, then they are backwards, oppressive, etc. Personally, I think that to a certain extent we are taught to be selfish which in turn affects the quality of our relationships. This is why in many cases we tend to focus on our own pleasure and pursuit of happiness regardless of what implications it may have on the lives of others.

I also understand that not all of us fit the above mentioned discription. However, I believe that people should correct themselves before judging others. Therefore I am being harder on the group I belong to in order that we may take clean up our own houses.

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 15:45
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Gypsy

Jasmine, it's an unfortunate fact that there are women everywhere in the world that have to do things to survive. The sad thing is that certain western men spread the idea that its better to marry poor Asian women because, they're better wives or mothers or blah blah blah, which makes these poor girls prey to these men who are simply out looking for a submissive woman to take advantage of. These men also talk badly about Western women, calling us ignorant or arrogant, therefore making us feel as if we are competeting against the Asian women, which is untrue. The unfortunate result of this is that there are many Asian women who end up in Western countries getting the snot beat out of them by their western hubbies with no one to turn to because the western women are jealous of them.

If men could just marry women without justifying the whoever they chose is better for whatever reason, the world would be a happier place.

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By jasmine_pilot• 15 Jun 2008 15:39
jasmine_pilot

yeah right, as long as those DOM "dirty old men" will not treat them as a trash, then its ok.

By ruphil• 15 Jun 2008 15:37
ruphil

yah jasmine...it so called "SURVIVAL"

By jasmine_pilot• 15 Jun 2008 15:35
jasmine_pilot

well, i came from developing country. and thats actually the trend, u cant blame those poor girls out there who cant find employment coz of lack of education due to poverty. basic needs is food, so if a man proposes to them that kind of things, why not grab the opportunity? no one would really understand them, but it's called "survival"

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 15:34
Gypsy

Then why do you continue to reinforce cultural sterotypes that hurt and devalue women?

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By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 15:33
Ramada

You are generalising, I have no wish to make any woman feel inadequate, least of all my wife!

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By ruphil• 15 Jun 2008 15:30
ruphil

Love is BLIND.. AGE or RACE is not the issue regarding marriage but the wealth lies within? yes, sometimes for some reasons.. but not all western old man had the wealth ..THey are also like us ASIANS that eat RICE, DRINK WATER and SLEEP ... and beside all will die and buried undergound or cremated and back to dust is just they same.. for western or asian people..

By nadt• 15 Jun 2008 15:23
nadt

Ramada i was being sarcastic...its totally stereotyping..

By abynel• 15 Jun 2008 15:22
abynel

hi! everyone..am new in qatarliving but i always read your post and comments i've learned a lot for them. this is my first time to make comments.uhmm yes alexa you are very fortunate to be a western Lady. Being first class citizen those really make difference. I feel so sad for my fellow asian who was unfortunate to be educated. And have to do such things just to give good life for there family back home.it was a oppurtunity for them. Am not justifying there acts but we cannot blame them either. i myself wanted to have western passport coz even salary vary if you are a western even for proffesional.And i have one question why do people critize asian women being married to western guy but not same as western girls being married to asian guys

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 15:17
Gypsy

I don't think it has anything to do with lack of experience, I think it has to do with what men shove in women's faces all the time to make us feel inadequate.

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By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 15:15
Ramada

What you say is true and well said. Unfortunately, westerners who lack experience find it difficult to understand and accept that this is in fact the case.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By anonymous• 15 Jun 2008 15:10
anonymous

What I do know that when he getss to the age of 99 he won't be allowed to open up a free web page. lol lol read this today.

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 14:56
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Gypsy

in reagards to the actual topic, at 92 I highly doubt he would have been able to consummate the marriage, also in a couple of years she could have been left very wealthy. Maybe not such a bad arrangement, so long as she agrees to it.

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By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 14:55
Ramada

Sorry to say this but it seems obvious that you and your buddies know very little about the world in general and men in particular. I would suggest that the attitudes you express in this thread are not truly genuine but are the result of mutual indoctrination. In other words, you have come to believe certain things simply because your 'friends' require it of you. Better wake up, make up your own mind about things and don't 'go with the flow' just because that is the easiest route.

By Gypsy• 15 Jun 2008 14:55
Gypsy

Why do we constantly pit women against women? This is the barrier to true equality with men you know, nothing to do with who makes their man feel more like a man or who works harder, or who's a better mother, it's our constantly allowing MEN to pit us against each other, so that rather then competiting with men we are in constant competition with each other. :(

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By nadt• 15 Jun 2008 14:54
nadt

17 year olds agree to a lot of things that they regret later..Seriously hes old enough to be her grandfather...At his age he needs s nurse not a wife...

By nadt• 15 Jun 2008 14:51
nadt

Come on Alexa, we middle eastern and Asian women do everything to please our men...we dont have an opinion,we arent aggressive, infact we are very submissive, our aim is just to please our hubbies...Didnt you know that? Our life is about them only!!!!. This is what we live for...

Totally agree Brit...talk about stereotyping...

By ruphil• 15 Jun 2008 14:50
ruphil

well said bella....

By britexpat• 15 Jun 2008 14:45
britexpat

To be honest, I am surprised by your comments because you seem to be playing to a sereotype of both Western and Non-western women.

By Bella• 15 Jun 2008 13:47
Bella

if she agreed what is the problem? marriage is blessed in the eyes of God.

By PhillyEagles2007• 15 Jun 2008 07:34
PhillyEagles2007

In my opinion, many western women (not all but many) need to get over themselves. They judge other women as being "poor, oppressed, uneducated, etc." because they are concerned about making their husbands happy (to be fair as men, we should also should be concerned about making our wives happy). Perish the thought that in this day and age any women should still care about that!

First of all who crowned you as queens of the universe? What makes you think that that bald, pot bellied, ex special forces guy went to Asia because he is not able to find a mate in the west? Maybe he just is tired of dealing with the "divas" of the west.

So the bottom line is that western women have some competition which is here to stay. Stop crying, get used to it, and step your game up.

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 01:45
Ramada

I am a Brit married to an asian lady who is nine years younger than me, we have been married for fifteen years and have a young daughter. I get sick and tired of the prejudice and stereotyping she is sometimes subjected to, usually by europeans and mostly by brits. If people are stupid enough to judge others based only on race then I pity them, but I tell you this. Based on my own experience, I would never have married a european woman (though I had some close shaves) because I found most of them to be truly ignorant and arrogant, not to mention condescending and patronising in their dealings with females of other races. There is a good deal of evidence of those same nasty and small minded traits within this thread, and I just thought I'd put you straight on that.

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By Harry99• 15 Jun 2008 01:23
Harry99

I personally know only one Euro/asian couple. However, I also know at least 15 American/Asian couples. The common thread in all is that the men are all ex forces and all have been married at least once before. In the majority of cases there is a significant age difference between the husband and wife.

Having said that. They are all happiymaried.

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 01:22
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Ramada

Then of course there is the fact that young asian girls are often pressured by their own families to marry much older men, as long as the guy is rich and has some social status...

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 01:10
a merry can muslim

I take note and agree with your last post. There are individuals who take advantage.

Aren't the women in the Red Light District taking advantage of the man's sexual need and weak state of mind?

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By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 01:05
a merry can muslim

I do not believe it is so simple as they were not suited for each other. I remember discussing with friends in Germany when I lived there that it was national news that German men were marrying and bringing in so many Auslanders to Germany and the consequences that this would have on the nation.

It can't be so simple as being suited for each other if that is the case, can it? Does it not show that there is perhaps a deeper cultural issue?

Please do not think I am dissing Germany. On the contrary I loved my time there and would move back again if circumstances dictated. I am not sure of the length of time you have been away from living in Germany and even the age difference between us but I assure you it that this was enough of a story to be brought up in national news.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 00:55
a merry can muslim

Are we? I didnt read those ground rules before we started this conversation.

As humans we "use" each other. It cannot be limited to men who "use" women.

What behavior? Feeling needed?

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:50
Ramada

Any takers?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 00:50
a merry can muslim

I only mentioned German women because Infinit brought up his experience from 1979 that coincided with mine the the late 90's to mid 2005.

I am sure that there are aggressive women in other nationalities but the conversation was regarding Germans and I have not out right dealt with the other nationalities you mentioned in such a manner as I have with Germans.

What I mean by aggressive is that the woman seems to desire being dominant over the other person. This can be in a lot of areas.

But when we speak in context to the cases of German men marrying foreign women as I have dealt with there it was usually to do with the fact that they felt more secure in their manhood from having their wife be dependent on them.

They didn't wish to control them, just to feel as if they were needed. And individuals I worked with in this category told me they never got that from German women. So they married Fillipinos, Moroccan, Korean and Eastern European respectively.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By novita77• 15 Jun 2008 00:49
novita77

ramada ... i know alot ... our family friends are mainly coming from mix marriages ... Loads of them in Doha ! :-)

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:48
Ramada

OK thats two, anybody else?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By novita77• 15 Jun 2008 00:47
novita77

Lol Alexa xxx

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:47
Ramada

So am I...

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By novita77• 15 Jun 2008 00:44
novita77

alexa ... go on ... you know at least one ... :P

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:43
Ramada

There are aggressive people (men & women) from every race, as well as genuine and good ones. So how many of you posting on this thread know or are freindly with a mixed race (euro/asian) married couple?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By novita77• 15 Jun 2008 00:38
novita77

another generalization ... tsk tsk tsk ...

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:36
Ramada

OK that's one, who else?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 00:32
a merry can muslim

I know a few in Germany that I worked with. And quite a few here in the UK as well.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 00:30
a merry can muslim

I thought you were a 66 year old sand expert from the Western sahara!!??

Seriously though, do you not think German women are pretty aggressive? It was definitely my experience there as a young man.

It is fantastic if you and your husband do not have any issues regarding this. I am sure there are German women who find the ways of their parents correct as you probably do. But the younger German women (my generation) would look at you (as a stay at home Mom) and think to themselves that you are dominated by your husband just by the "mere" fact that you are a stay at home Mom.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By Ramada• 15 Jun 2008 00:29
Ramada

Well you all appear to know what you are talking about, so tell me, how many of you know or are friendly with a couple in a mixed (Euro/Asian) marriage?

"If you make something idiot-proof, the world will create a better idiot." (Grave's Law)

By a merry can muslim• 15 Jun 2008 00:10
a merry can muslim

Infitinit,

It was still very much a topic of discussion and contention when I was there as late as 2005.

The men do not want an aggressive German woman who feels that she can do everything on her own. By marrying a foreigner they have someone who is dependent on them and makes them feel like they are men in more ways than just the bed. It is psychological.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By infinitl2008• 15 Jun 2008 00:01
infinitl2008

While I was in Germany in 1979

This was an issue,

lots of men getting married to Asians,

one of the points that they talked about was that the men wanted a women that will take care of the house the kids and the him and not complain and ask for equality..

yes they might be ugly..but that does not mean they are not good and kind,

The last thing one can do is judge by apperance

Math 4 All

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:50
anonymous

sorry don't like using the sweeping term Asians.....but I think we all get the gist...Unless we live under a big stone

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:48
anonymous

well, makes you wonder really, why these men go with Asian women is cos they're so ugly even their own won't touch em with a bargepole!!!!

By jasmine_pilot• 14 Jun 2008 23:47
jasmine_pilot

well, it happened, i cant say much further coz she was my patient.

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:43
anonymous

infinitl...and what would they need from these Asian ladies that they cannot get back home?..mmm?

By infinitl2008• 14 Jun 2008 23:41
infinitl2008

I have one question here,

is the marriage done with the girls exceptance..or is it a leagle one where the dad represnts the girl?

if she has a true saying in it, she will get what she excpted, if not, then it is another issue...

As for Asin - Western Young - old marriage,

this issue was once pointed out to the fact that the asian ladies provide the Western men with what they need and can not get from thier own ladies back home..The feeling of manhood..

Math 4 All

By Secguy• 14 Jun 2008 23:41
Secguy

That is Rape in Civilized World..classed as Statutory rape if I'm not mistaken.

Motivation is when your dreams put on work clothes.

- Ben Franklin

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:35
anonymous

disgusting....

By jasmine_pilot• 14 Jun 2008 23:34
jasmine_pilot

i know an arab girl, 14 y/o, married to a man, 55y/o, from the gulf. the girl delivered via CS with their first child, pathetic case, but thats life.

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:29
anonymous

yeah, God thats so desperate poor buggers...waking up to those disgusting pervs must make them sick...

By a merry can muslim• 14 Jun 2008 23:26
a merry can muslim

Alexa, I find it interesting that you have an insight into what they will have to go through. Care to elaborate?

Some woman (and men I suppose) will go through amazing things to get a western passport. Whether it is because of their plight in their country of origin or because they are looking to gain a foot hold on western life is debatable.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:22
anonymous

mmm Alexa...its quite amazing what a wallet full of cash does.......That has got to be the reason for those girls hanging off those slobs....I just think what sad buggers they both are......pride in oneself......

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:12
anonymous

still disgusting...both of them..

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:11
anonymous

I find any elderly man marrying a young woman revolting......I don't buy the they are in love who cares about age......rubbish..the old man usually has money......end of

By a merry can muslim• 14 Jun 2008 23:10
a merry can muslim

Good. I am glad to see you seem to be a person balanced in your opinions.

I have no problem if someone finds this revolting or another adjective they want to use to describe it. But It burns me up when they have that feeling solely because it is an Arab male marrying a 'poor' female. Yet if you give them the Smith case they say 'good for her!'

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By a merry can muslim• 14 Jun 2008 23:09
Rating: 2/5
a merry can muslim

No, there is a 75 year difference in the Egyptian case. And a 63 year difference in the Smith case.... 12 years difference between the two respective age differences!

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:05
anonymous

luv, my maths ain't great but I would say that the gap between 17 and 92 is alot more than 12......

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 23:04
anonymous

a merry can muslim....I certainly did find that revolting too...yes...

By a merry can muslim• 14 Jun 2008 23:02
a merry can muslim

Did you find it revolting when that Anna Nicole Smith woman married that Texan oil billionaire? Wikipedia says there was a 63 year difference, 12 less than this case.

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

By anonymous• 14 Jun 2008 22:51
anonymous

revolting....

By swissgirl39• 14 Jun 2008 22:48
swissgirl39

...no comment...

for news about Swiss check this:www.swissinfo.ch

By Secguy• 14 Jun 2008 22:47
Secguy

Good on them..... always suspect when this kind of marrage happens.

Motivation is when your dreams put on work clothes.

- Ben Franklin

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