Adam Sandler's Good Israeli, Bad Arabs

Whenever Israelis want something like a war with Iran the rhetoric and lies start, whats new????

I agree with the first half of your post, just not the part about a 'good' cinematic experience. I am not a big fan of Mr. Sandler's humor, a little too sophomoric for my taste.

Molae said you find that funny, Winn? ...

All I can tell is that "artificial intelligence is no match for human stupidity"

Now, now...where did artificial intelligence come in between all this?You got any clue wht that stands for? yeah...go n google now!

I was asking for the crystal and commenting on the script tht u got, suddenly u had to post this quote which had no connection to anything!!

Oh...! u just read that quote somewhere n u found it witty n had to show off, right?

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nice, gypsy! a canadian "decent" women who "loves to blow arab men...........up" combined with some "american" popo who thinks there's a "son of God", have something to say about IQ. Very entertaining, indeed!

(then it's a bless to have no IQ, I believe)

Oh Red Pope, leave the poor guy alone, you know defining IQ is out of range of his.

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Define to us I.Q in Molae terms?

And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.

before you talk about other issues, let's see how much you know about life; would you pls explain the "son of God" thing which you mentioned earlier?

Cheers!

"your nigga"

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I am amused to see such literate people fighting over a movie which has nothing to do except to gross as much money as possible so that the producers can get more rich and plan for another movie which will be hotly debated as this...where people fight,prophecies are anounced,personal attacks are considered democratic...well....Please Grow Up and watch it as only good cinematic experience.

If any felt offended I am sorry..and if you still feel bad,may be you deserve it.

Molae, My "Eunuch and concubine" said:

All I can tell is that "artificial intelligence is no match for human stupidity"

Molae

Your "EUNUCH" Intelligence is EQUAL TO your "CONCUBINE ATTITUDE."

And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.

All I can tell is that "artificial intelligence is no match for human stupidity"

Plot Summary:

This is the story about a Mossad agent Zohan Dvir, who fakes his death so he can re-emerge in New York City as a hair stylist. He romances his clients by giving them "special services" in the back room. However, he is eventually recognized, and risks losing his newfound life and career.

Some of the cast:

Biography for Sayed Badreya

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Guys Please! Its just a freakin movie! And noone has watched it yet. It ridiculous to comment on a movie without watchin it. So some Christian catholic grps were offended by Da Vici code. I dont think anythin happened except that the movie was so BAD!!! Its the same thing if you dont make a big deal out of it noone will notice it.

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"La Vita è bella", "Life is Beautiful" 1998. 3 Oscars wins.

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The Producers 2005. Nominated for 4 Golden Globes

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LOL...do u rent out that crystal ball??I can sure use it!!

'Prophecy', 'HUGE plans'...dude u got a really good script there! Ever thought of making a movie..?

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we are at the end, Winn?

I think this area (middle east) will be witnessing some vast events!

But before that, and according to the prophecy, Israel will be extending fom the Nile to the Euphrates (well actually some of them have currently reached the Euphrates)

This is why the issue of Iraq is not about oil or liberation of Kuwait, Al-Qaeda (bla bla bla)...it is a part of a HUGE plan for the whole area

Molae u said,"You only need to face violence with more violence in order to get your rights & achieve peace in the end!"

So tell me Molae, how much peace has been achieved?

n yeah miscat- its jus a friggin movie which is not gonna affect/change anyone. People might watch it, probably hav some laughs, probably not n move on!!

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

LOL osofedup, welcome to QL!

Best QL quote EVER:

"QL starts where high school left off"

--AbuAmerican, May 28 '08

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I loved your post mis-cat...nicely said :-)

Hi all, just joined Qatar Living as I am moving over in the next few weeks....trying to get a feel for the place and people....and the first thread I read is about someone getting all hot over a movie by Adam Sandler???

Give me a break!.. Shades of the 60's and the Church trying to ban Life of Brian methinks!

"It's a frigging God damn movie for christs sake" made by a guy who is jewish of course its going to be onesided people. It is not a documentry the only thing in it that has some resembalance to real life it is based on the Arab - Israli conflict. When are some people going to grow up and start separting fantasy from reality.

nothing wrong at all in "blown up buses and in blown up souks and in blown up coffee shops in israel" when Israelis have left their countries around the world, came to invade your country, killed your family, stole or demolished your home/farm...etc. This is the least you can do for these terrorists.

You only need to face violence with more violence in order to get your rights & achieve peace in the end!

but again.. we are talking about the movie which no one have seen… so.. there is nothing to talk about.. we can discuss it again after we have seen this movie… otherwise it’s just a shaking an air for nothing…

Thanks for presenting an alternative review aviduser. I'm not sure what the point of realsomeone's original post was (perhaps QL should have a Movie Reviews section for posts like this) but you're right, people should make up their own minds once they've seen the film.

..I am talking about unprofessionalism of the critics, who are mixing the things…there is conflict between palestine and israel.. most of arabs support palestinians, although up to the point, mentioned by Gypsy ( thanks gyps)… some arabs (like arabs who live in israel) do not support palestinians, as they are usually among the first victims in blown up buses and in blown up souks and in blown up coffee shops in israel.

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June 6, 2008 | "You Don't Mess With the Zohan" -- in which Adam Sandler plays an Israeli counterterrorist commando whose big dream is to become a hairdresser -- is the movie "Munich" should have been. At the very least, it's got to be the first picture to use smelly-feet jokes as a means of parsing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But more than that, it's a mainstream movie that dares to make jokes about the kinds of complex political realities that most of us don't dare bring up at dinner parties. And while it doesn't attempt to offer any viable diplomatic solution (you won't see Sandler accepting the Nobel Peace Prize anytime soon, or ever), it makes a valiant effort to bridge a gap that most of us, dispiritingly, have come to believe is unbridgeable. When Zohan's mother, played by the saucy, sunny Dina Doronne, urges him to stay in the army, she professes to see some light at the end of this very long, dark tunnel: "They've been fighting for 2,000 years, it can't be much longer." The stark reality is that it probably will be.

But that isn't going to stop Sandler from proffering this bold, optimistic olive branch, one that attempts to show that, since Arabs and Jews have learned to get along (at least reasonably well) in New York, their problems in the Middle East can't be unsolvable. No matter where you stand on Adam Sandler -- with his extremely profitable blend of crudeness and self-effacing regular-guy sweetness -- there's no denying the audacity of Sandler's basic idea (he co-wrote the script with Robert Smigel and the ubiquitous Judd Apatow; Dennis Dugan is the director), or the pleasure he takes in poking fun at both sides, even as he extends a degree of sympathy to each one.

"You Don't Mess With the Zohan" opens with the brawny, bronzed, curly-haired Zohan, dressed in stubby thick-soled leather sandals and conspicuously bulging shorts, wowing the babes at an Israeli beach. Possessed of near-superhuman strength and agility, he's a whiz at hacky sack and tug-of-war games; that's because he's not just a beach bum but a highly trained operative in the Israeli army (the movie never utters the term "Mossad," but the implication is there). The unfortunate bummer is that his bosses are cutting his beach holiday short so he can recapture a wily Palestinian terrorist known as The Phantom (John Turturro).

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But Zohan is a lover, not a fighter. His parents, played by Doronne and Shelley Berman (who has some absurd, wonderful bits involving dollops of hummus), know how much he really wants to be a hairdresser, a dream they don't fully support -- not least because Dad is certain it marks him as a "fegelah." Zohan won't be deterred. He's spent countless hours studying a 1980s Paul Mitchell hairstyling manual, and even though he's had no formal training, he's fully confident that there's no mullet he can't master. After he finds a way to make it to New York, he realizes his dream isn't so easy to achieve. But he does get a foot in the door at a salon run by a stunning, charming Palestinian woman, Dalia (Emmanuelle Chrigui), and he eventually becomes the salon's most popular stylist, in part because he has so much sexual energy that he happily services all the older ladies -- once he's finished fashioning their hair into weirdly flattering retro-'80s styles.

Zohan learns that he can't escape his past -- or his homeland's past -- just by switching countries. "Zohan" never attempts to simplify the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: If anything, it acknowledges the ways in which that conflict is both political and religious, deeply personal and nothing personal. When one of Zohan's newfound New York friends, an electronics-store employee named Oori (Ido Mosseri), first suggests he try to get a job at Dalia's salon, he notes that it's on the Palestinian side of the street: This is a movie where businesspeople with deep-rooted religious and political differences are symbolically lined up directly across from one another. Zohan resists: "I've already done enough to my parents!" -- a way of acknowledging that old wounds, on both sides, run so deep through so many generations, that it's impossible to accurately trace their genesis. In a later scene, a group of clumsy would-be terrorists led by an embittered cab driver (played by Rob Schneider) sit around a kitchen table plotting Zohan's capture. Their motivation isn't so much political (it can actually be traced to a stolen goat), but still, they tap the expertise available to them by calling a "Hezbollah hotline," where a friendly female voice greets them with the words, "For terrorist supplies, press 1."

Sandler is one of the most popular mainstream comedians working -- and how many mainstream comedians are willing to put Hezbollah gags in their movies? Even the movie's casting reflects a desire to both revel in stereotypes and break them down: In "Zohan," Sandler is a Jew playing a Jew, but we also get another Jew (Schneider), an Italian-American (Turturro) and a Canadian of Jewish French Moroccan descent (Chriqui) playing Arabs. Dugan has also cast a large number of Israeli and Arab actors, among them Mosseri and Sayed Badreya, who plays a cab driver who almost becomes a terrorist, although it's clear he just doesn't have it in him. In the movie's press notes, the Egyptian-born Badreya says that when he came to the States in 1979, the only jobs available to him were roles as terrorists. Because he was "young and fit and too good-looking" to play a terrorist, he grew a beard and gained weight, and got work right away. "Since then, for 20 years, I've had one line in every movie I've been in: 'In the name of Allah, I kill you all.'"

Almost no one I've talked to in the days since I've seen "Zohan" can believe that the thing is any good, and the picture does have some problems: It's badly in need of streamlining -- like so many modern comedies, it sags in the middle, and there are plenty of lesser jokes that could have been easily excised. But the movie's tone is what's most surprising about it: Even though it's essentially sweet-natured, there's some ruthlessness at its heart. Its ultimate plea is that both sides need to cut out the nonsense, once and for all. Sandler's performance here is both ridiculous and winning: Instead of coasting, as he usually does, on his aw-shucks boyishness, he clearly has a good time amping it up as an English-mangling sex god. (He gets a great malapropism with the line, "Stick a fork in the fat lady; it's done! She's eaten.")

No Adam Sandler movie is free of crude humor: Here, that includes numerous bare butts (including a pretty nice-looking one, belonging to Lainie Kazan, whose character is one of Zohan's friends and benefactors) and sequences in which Zohan grinds against the older ladies who make up his clientele (invariably, they squeal with delight). Stupid jokes don't need to serve a higher purpose, but it's possible that the dumb Sandleresque gags here help keep the movie from being too preachy or aggressively earnest.

And there's nothing more offensive in "Zohan" than the sequence in "Munich" in which Eric Bana -- as a Mossad agent who's trying to escape the violence of his past -- makes love to his wife, as flashbacks of the murders of the Israeli Olympic team in 1972 in Munich run through his head. "Munich" was a fictionalized story set against a real-life backdrop of tragedy: Bana plays an agent assigned to avenge the kidnapping and murder of 11 members of the Israeli Olympic team by the Palestinian terrorist group Black September. In "Munich" -- its first half, at least -- Steven Spielberg attempts to wrestle with some morally ambiguous issues, particularly the question of whether violence is ever morally justified, or necessary. But Spielberg tiptoes up to the complexity of those issues only to pull back from the edge. And his conclusion -- "Violence begets violence" -- isn't particularly enlightening or deep.

"Don't Mess With the Zohan" is the braver movie, for the way Sandler uses throwaway humor in the service of a strong point of view. "Zohan" never even addresses the viability of violence as a solution. It posits, from the start, that the only way to solve this seemingly unsolvable conflict is by forging human connections. You can tsk-tsk Sandler's penchant for dumb, crass humor all you want, but there's some meaning behind his madness. Is there nothing more human, more humbling, than the idea of smelly feet?

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I think this makes the film sound more balanced than people suggest. People should watch the film first before passing comment.

dont bother Molae...I do not get bad dreams! I sleep well. If that means something.

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I was just trying to wake you up from a bad dream

the big lie called the "holocaust" ??

What exactly are you trying to say Molae??

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

Yes QS, you see Arabs HAVE to pay lip service to this whole idea of Islamic brotherhood, whilst waiting for an opportunity to invade their neighbours. As for Palestine, they don't really care, but it's fun to complain about.

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In general, in the Islamic theory, there are no countries & bounderies. There is only a "muslim land" where muslims are bound to defend it against aggressions! (I emphasize that this is in theory, and was practiced hundreds of years ago).

This is not the case in "western" world. A Christian Colombian has no obligation in defending a Slovinian land under attack!

you don't even need to be an arab in order to support palestinians... or you don't have to be jew in order to support israel... it is still PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI conflict.. who does support who - this is another issue...

SOMETIMES!

Yes, they defend them when it suits them to, and invade each other when it doesn't.

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I don't need to be a Palestinean in order to defend the land of Palestine!

Arabs/Muslims in general, defend each others lands

...what exactly made you so upset… doesn’t one of the comments state: “In the world according to Adam, Arabs are childish, violent, stupid; Israelis are aggressive, mendacious, oversexed.”?

so what exactly made you upset here??

Btw, I wouldn't trust the professionalism of these comments.. let’s look at that one:

“As a cutting comedic satire about the Arab-Israeli conflict and stereotypes...." This is a wrong statement, coz it opposes “Arabs” to “Israelis”..

There is NO Arab-Israeli conflict. There is “Palestinian-Israeli conflict”.

On the other hand, about 1/3 of israelis are ARABS (muslims and christians) and btw, they (arabs) are pretty happy about it…

the more unemployment we have the more people we have to use their devil minds for destruction.

I think these threads try to keep track of me

Why should I defend what I said. Listen to Molae he's already to go burn down the Embassy. As for making anti-Holocaust movies, they have been made, Nobody went to see them, they flopped and disappeared into the dust of oblivion (as more then likely this Adam Sandler movie and that sill Dutch thing would have if people just stopped paying attention to them).

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that no one have seen yet? or we discuss the comments on this movie?

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Well not exactly but u try to keep track of this thread.

because one happened, and the other didn't!

How on earth can he have seen this movie... it is all hearsay. dont u know Old habbits die hard lady.

Y do u keep changing the basic topic.

First u went wayward to holocaust

Now u are relating this holocaust to WW2

Mind u WW2 is the result of holocaust and not the other way round.

or you only have read the comments?

i am just wondering..pls, not jumps, eh?

I respect ppl who are fair!

Now we have to convince Europe & America that such movies (showing the facts of WW2) are totally harmless

Alright! I give up! My bad... Gypsy's turn to defend her ass now.

You guys have way too much time on hands to keep cribbing over it. Cheers!

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i don't think that there's something wrong with gypsy's QUESTION. she was plainly asking a question and not making a COMMENT on the post...

I know. Neither did the Germans!

Well then go ahead and make a movie on Holocaust. No one is stopping you and your friends from doing so anyway.

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"He was the one who brought burning down Danish embassies first"

Here is the first mention of burning down embassies:

Gypsy said Are you going to go burn ...

Are you going to go burn down some embassy's over this one?

no one has killed about 5-7 million Arabs/Israelis in this part of the world and that too in a span of less then 10 yrs.

My line was for Molae not for you. He was the one who brought burning down Danish embassies first. That was religion related, wasn't it?

Ahhh... if your last comment was for Molae, then please ignore this one. :P

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rayyz is correct. remember our childhood days and the only few friends that used to constantly cribb then were the only ones to be teased again & again & again.

Same case with movies and other forms of irritation.

Any other religious people do protest whenever there is any offending (movie / book) shown / written but that is inn civilised way. Not many give such an importance that the movie itself gets hit even before it is screened :)

CHill realsomeone and the likes.

WOrld is not gonna end after this movie is shown

grow up people

"Try making a movie on other cultures or people and see if they care. I suppose they won't give a damn about it. As a matter of fact, you see in so many movies from Hollywood they make fun of themselves and laugh about it."

your statement is totally unvalid when it comes to movies about the "holocaust"

Show me 1 movie which "makes fun of it & laugh about it"

You have not watch the movie yet and just follow what the critics said.

Why dont you spend some money and go to the movies and bring your own point of view if you can have one.

By the way Adam Sandlers is Comedy not Political so I recommend you to prepare your self to have a good time watching the movie.

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Hey this is not about Islam...this is about Arab & Israel so limit your comments to the topic.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

I will be happy for any damage that occurs to any hateful ppl/nations who cause damage , aggression & tragedies to other ppl/nations

The movie has already been panned by the critics, so the best option is to write a few letters to the main newspapers complaining about the movie and leave it at that..

But I thought Islam was a religion of peace. Why double hatred?

Try making a movie on other cultures or people and see if they care. I suppose they won't give a damn about it. As a matter of fact, you see in so many movies from Hollywood they make fun of themselves and laugh about it.

If Arabs keep getting irritated time and again, it's gonna give others more kick to repeating it. Live and let live!

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there are some other peaceful means of protesting against such hateful movies; we can always encourage honest ppl to produce movies about the big lie called the "holocaust" and do all we can to show the world that it is nothing but a bunch of lies!

"Are you going to go burn down some embassy"

I think what happened to Danish embassy(s) is the least they deserve.

May peace be upon you if that is your honest viewpoint.

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anyone having a problem with this movie should ignore it and live happily.

This less than a 2 hour movie is not going to change anything on this planet except a few fatwas and burning of some property.

Rest of the world doesn't give such movies a hoot

Well you can buy petrol and matches at Carrefour Molae, and I'm sure you know where the American Embassy is, so have at it. As Adam Sandler, I think he lives in New York.

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"Are you going to go burn down some embassy"

I think what happened to Danish embassy(s) is the least they deserve.

When you face ppl full of hatred to others, all you need is to give them Double-Hatred!

realsomeone - perhaps if you offered some comment on the story you posted it would start a proper debate. But if all you do is cut n paste then people will comment however they want.

I've been thinking of moving into movie direction/production. Here's a great story to start of with, make an anti-American anti-Israeli movie. Good or bad publicity, it's gonna get me publicity anyway. Lets see how they react to it.

You make fun of me, I retaliate the same way! :P

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Then why are you posting this if you aren't outraged? As for my first comment, are you saying things like that don't happen when Arabs get offended by things?

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I am not outraged by the movie but your first comment... read back what you wrote.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

You're the one all outraged by a silly carto...I mean movie, not me. :)

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she spoke like a child??

GUess you were very wise then right thats why you keep returning back after getting banned hmm how many times 2 or 3.

its not about israel its about your typical mentality. if you cant mend then dont mess either.

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Sorry to childs....

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

i mean your words are of no signficance , you spoke like child.

DaRuDe i know you will be fired up when the topic is about Israel.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

how are you so lets go on war then

not here on the ground War of Dj :D

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Hey you posted it.

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Here's a mission for Darude, always at War! :P

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its just like you provoke a bee and when it stings you then you cry.

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What a worthless words ...

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

Are you going to go burn down some embassy's over this one? Assassinate Adam Sandler?

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