Asians extremes to get Western look

plastic surgery is pretty common and generally accepted there these days. it's a fad to some, a way of buying self esteem to others. i've watched quite a few interviews of korean celebrities (both men & women) who are no longer ashamed to admit they had work done on their faces and tv programs would show their before and after images.

i don't know, maybe it's due to some sort of confucian upbringing that make them want to conform with whatever is trendy/ideal at the time. like learning english and getting second eyelids to get bigger round eyes. or copying their favorite movie star's lips. having them done on children is a little alarming though.

i like asian features

MJ? you mean the late MJ aka Micheal Jackson or are you refering to QL member MJ aka mjamille..:)

why can't the Asians do it? MJ is a good example! It's business and money talks!

to make it more relevant to Qatar, the subject line must be "Only for Lebanese Girls" IMHO.

Asians girls have a soft round face with feminine features. Thai lady boys go through a lot of surgery and ingest handful of hormones (jeopardizing their life)to get those looks. World is crazy.

Guess it comes to personal choice ultimately but IMO no one does unless its to fix an unnatural disability.

Allah creation is perfect, but those who do not belive in Allah need the help of plastic surgeons?

If people but only realized that beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder and what is beautiful for one will not always be beautiful for everyone. Besides there's so much awesome in being unique!

Frenchieman, The westeners want bigger boooty and lips like the Africans and tanned Skinned like the Arab and Asians..:)

I guess no one is perfect!

hah !! you got it polka.... my conclussion exactly !

Western conspiracy yet again!

blame it on the ads.

Western media is stronger, beauty is every where, these asians are not happy with what they have and this creats some kind of lack of confidence in themeslves.

So why is 'Western' the look they are going for in the first place? Why not Arab or African?

LP... looks like have to drop that discussion but may be some other relevant thread some other time… seems I got interested in it…:))

I also prefer people as they are. I hate surgery in any form, MBK.

I think western men prefer the little Asian beauties just the way they are. :)

Ask any middle aged pot bellied westerner with a young asian bird on his arms..:)

good point LLP

happy, eating an animal or making it "look better" are two different things! God made the animals and plants as an energy source for the humans. But he made the humans as they are. Circumcision is a useless Jewish rite.

In Islam, circumcision is mentioned in some hadith (it is referred as Khitan), but NOT in the Qur'an!!

You LLP do you like to have choice or no?

I like a person who said that this life is game where there are winners and losers after the game is finished.

Are you on the right thread :o)

LP...but people who do not follow Qur'an also eat animals ..right. So the question is why would a human kill an animal when it is also a creation of God and if God does not make mistakes the animal also should be allowed to exist until it meets its end as per God's design.

Yeah, I understand that you feel uncomfortable, FS.

s_isale...No...but still we do.

LP stay on the topic..we are discussing about cosmetic surgery..:) what you are talking is not a cosmetic surgery.

happy, there are precise descriptions of how to slaughter animals for consumption in the Qur'an!!

HGL - if thats the case did God tell you to eat the plants?

Just remember that circumcision has no drawbacks. ;o)

Because it's soap.

Same God has created animals and didn't see him telling us human beings to kill and eat them....still we do.

why is it not nife, LP?

It's not a knife, s_isale.

what is soap?

I strongly believe that God makes no mistakes. I think everybody agrees.

Which is nonsense, FS. Ever heard about water and soap?

LP… even Docs recommend that for hygienic reasons for infants.

Like I said, I don't do it. My religion does not require it of me or my children.

Uranus, that's ok. When YOU decide to do it. But I guess, people have no right to do it with infants who cannot raise their voice and declare their will!

We Christians got a pass on circumcision, along with the ban on eating pork. Christians also believe that Christ's sacrifice of himself negated the need for any further such sacrifices.

Anyway this is getting too religious for this thread. As I put up the OP, I am asking we keep the thread within bounds. Start a religious thread if you want.

And if it said, chop of your head, you would do it too, Uranus?

The religious text just says to do it as a sign of submission to God. Chopping off part of one's reproductive parts is about as submissive as you can get I suppose.

Uranus, if God is all knowing, and knowing best, I don't see any reason to change anything He created.

Why, Uranus. Did the 'All-knowing' make a mistake on purpose?

LP the difference is that there is a religious text to which the faithful can point that clearly states God expects circumcision.

There is no text in which God says to get a nose job.

Some Korean girls look really pretty... but I like Japanese more..:)

Brit...I am also happy with the way YOU look...:)

"From my prespective belief point of view, those people who want to change their look are not satisfied with the way God created them, people must know that what God decided for them is the best thing for them."

I agree, SA. That's why I think circumcision done in a young age is also changing the creator's design. If he would have wanted it, he would have made men like this. Why do people fumble with God's creation?

Korean women are beautiful in their own right and speak beautiful English already. There is beauty in difference. Monotony is dull.

Don't know from where they are getting these weird ideas.. I like the Koreans (the girls) just the way they are...:)

I totally agree Straight Arrow. My belief also is that such extreme actions as those described in the story are offensive to God as our Creator.

What is worse in this case is that PARENTS are doing it to their children. What sort of message does this send to a child when her parents what surgery to make her look 'prettier' or sound 'better'? Absolutely terrible.

Am I the only one happy with the way i look :o)

Sad reflection on our world today. I suppose the media has a major part to play in this with the glamourization and adulation of certain body types and features.

who want to change their look have a lack of confidence in themselves or what they have it is pshycology problem.

It is all becaue of the media effect, the solution for this problem is simple, people must be confident in them selves and must know that they are created in the perfect way which makes them better than others.

From my prespective belief point of view, those people who want to change their look are not satisfied with the way God created them, people must know that what God decided for them is the best thing for them.

It's not just these sorts of extremes. Go into Boots or other places that sell women's makeup--packed full of skin lighteners and creams and such. I don't get the whole pale is prettier thing, but you see it here, South Africa, etc.

I just feel sorry for this poor kids. I could not fathom doing something like this to mine.

A Mongloid person with Western features would most probably resemble an Indian IMHO, The mothers should try teaching their kids Malayalam from an earlier age, would help in mastering any toung twisting language latter on in life!

I found this to be very surprising if not a little disturbing. As a white Western male, it's not something I had ever noticed or really thought about.

This extract from the story was most worrying:

A global ideal doesn't stop at the face, says dental surgeon Jung Hak. Dr Jung says he's been fighting a trend. Korean mothers who have been bringing in their toddlers to have the muscle under the tongue that connects it to the bottom of the mouth surgically snipped.

The belief, explains Dr Jung, is that it will help a Korean speak English more clearly. People from the Asia Pacific region have difficulty in pronouncing the "L" sound, says Dr Jung. But he calls the surgery, if it's only for pronunciation, misguided, and caused by the hyper-competitive drive in Korea.