Fashion Week swimsuit sparks Indian outrage

Respect for others different from oneselves is sadly lacking.

Just because some people are desensitized to stepping over other people's religious or cutural sensitivities does not mean that this is right way forward for living in harmony.

In fact, it's rather a sign of arrogance and a superority complex that expects others to conform to one's view. There is a fine line between being confident in oneself, standing firm cf. being arrogant.

Not referring to anyone in particular, of course. Many here are capable of balanced objectivity and self reflection.

IMHO, the furore is justified. Art can be in other forms, not in a way that does not give proper reverence or respect.

Personally, I dont see the work of an artist here. Looks like somebody made a swimsuit with a poster that could be found in about a zillion homes/establishments in India. Cant see anything added to it in terms of colors/design/whatever. So how do we call it an artist's freedom of expression?

Maybe a 'designer's freedom to stitch something out of a poster cloth and get some mileage from the hue and cry it would surely cause and look like victims/martyrs for the cause of 'freedom of expression' in the process?? I mean , the designer has spent some time in India, she doesnt need to be a rocket scientist to know for certian that this move is not exactly gonna put her in the 'top 10' list of most loved people in india. If those guys still chose to do it, they must definitely have had more in mind than jus binging out a new piece of swimwear.

Guess there's more than one way to get publicity and pulling any religion in is one sure shot way! They should thank the conservatives for playing out the role that was expected of them!

Mom me, I did not voice ANY opinion, I just offered an explanation.

I did not ridicule or judge.

And I do have no intention to.

Question - So it is okay for you to riducule the whole idea that some people may be upset by the wrong depiction of their gods but you get all mishy mashy when I point out how absurd your opinion sounds. I agree that you did not suggest 'World Peace' - I wanted to point out your insensitivity towards other person's religious sentiments. 'Why it was done' is your personal opinion - an irresponsible one.

Mom me, I said none of those things. Do not put words in my mouth. All I stated is why it was done. That's all.

No need to spew venom in my direction.

Nomerci, indigenous. Going by your logic, the 'pretty faced Gods' sticking on bums can promote world peace. Now, only if I can convince the simple minded hindu folks backhome to put designer undies in their temples and meditate on it - all for a higher purpose.

What say, gift those undies to secretaries of UN officials. Let them parade around in it, quite an inspiration for resolving conflicts. We may need loads of incense sticks though, err...the Gods do get upset with obnoxious smelly gases even if they exude from the most beautiful bummies.

For a start you have to be younh, sexy, suave and debonaire..

This puts most of us out :O(

very simple, pretend urself more and more liberal on QL, don't comment against whatever crap posted against ur belief, country, religion, nation, etc... on QL.

..and I asked how to become QL elite..and it's still unanswered for ages......:), if it was a exam I might've got it but it seems it;s kindaa Camel riding race ...lol

OoO..welcome back...:), we all missed you, really !!

she is QL 'Elite' and above QL Guidlines ;) hence allowed to have multiple id's :)

But how many IDs does Formatted Soul have :O(

QL Secret Agent and multiple ID's buster 'Formatted Soul' to investigate the issue and submit a through report to me on this!

The report will be made public on QL once its is approved ;)

Khanan...lol....any names for the fragrance...;)

If Khanan is scared of Tinker then one can only imagine what Paint-Her-Ji will do.

nope ;) but bring smile on my face whenever I recall those comments

He is in his hometown and carries the print of your posts to impress his villagers ;)

seems your 4th sense 'Smell' is also working very fine and you are smelling the right fragrance ;)

Painther'ji' : today is loling'day so a bigh LOOOOL ;)

painther... at the risk of being observed, I still say "lol"... but 'I observed' that with 'ji' you are tagged to a profession ...:) BTW one hell of an observation by someone who is just 2 weeks+ old!!!! Do I smell oh I mean am I observing a old wine in new bottle...:)

OoO, I'm a visiting faculty here in QL while HGL is fulltime professor :)

Happy, bytheway did you notice he called me "ji" (respect!!! in QL ???? I'm fainted....water plzzzzzzzz)...plz all take note of this, I'm a "respected" QLers....I can depart now....LOL

Thanks Khanan - I take that as a compliment ;)

wow!!

you got sharp eyes and sharp mind OoO!

Happy - Thats not a concern. It was an observation.

AD....lol...agree...:)

HGL

This is called FAALTOOpathy ;)

Oracleofoasis ...and your concern is???? BTW why are you on the same thread as me and painther...telepathy..:)

Painterji and Happygolucky - How come you guys are seen on same threads ;)?

Telepathy?

painther... what to do my upbringing doesn't allow me to go deeper than that...:)

happygolucky, ......art on zipper!!!.....ROFL

Oracle of Oasis, you're so right, but 'flexibility is sustainability!!

if some1 over protect anything, it generates doubts of worthiness!

I wonder if the comments would be same bysome posters above if this had anything to do with Islam or Christianity.

There is a huge difference between 'freedom of expression'and respect for others.

Can I then get a picture of someones girlfriend/ wife whom I like and get it pasted on my trouser zippers... and trust me I am 100% sure about myself that I have no insults in my mind for her..... it just that I liked her in the designer dress she wore that evening.

Here is the thing, the Hindu gods and godesses look pretty, the others don't. Plus Hinduism, Buddhism or what people think those 2 religions/philosophies are, are very, very popular worldwide due to their peaceful conception.

This is what people think. They simply like the images and designs.

I am 100% sure NOBODY had any insults in mind.

I do not know each school has their curriculum which covers the main subject science, physics, math, etc.

Now tell me is the universe only the earth which we live on and the sky that we see?

The print on tissue boxes and all sanitary boxes/covering is a copyright material. You have to pay the ARTIST to get the print.

I say such artist can choose any Hindu God (there are many) and poop/piss/vomit....on them, do anything they feel like *Yup liberal here* but PLEASE don't call it ART. Not that the Gods will get offended but you(the artist) is kinda fooling people. Hey, it's just copy paste - on the *chaddee*, that's art ?

No, you haven't answered my question, SA> What does the majority teach? You must have a real pain now.

I somehow doubt tampon boxes will ever be considered art....

I beleive the fashion designer was looking for cheap publicity and she got one. She has stayed in India for quite sometime and should be well aware of the orthodox way of hindus.

Goddess on 'chaddees' !! What's next ? God on condoms/tampoons/female sanitary napkins..... all in the name of art. That is not art it is cheap and filthy.

Really? I though LP's questions reflects his level of sarcasm and intelligence.

Where are you hiding?

Your mode of questions reflect the level of pain you have LLP.

I wonder why people don't follow basic rule i.e. talk religious stuff in that group. WOnder why Mods encourage it in general fora, or is it true? Mods Love it too....I don't!

LLP I think I have answered you and now its your turn to answer and lets go back to the thread.

Is the universe made only of the earth which we are living on and the sky which we see?

I do not know what they teach in the majority of the schools around the world, I can not study in many schools at the same time.

Please answer my question.

Also do not forget that the bones are supporting the body and not the outside skin, my message is focus on the core foundations.

Any house can not stand for long time if the foundations are weak.

stick to the topic!

Its about Hindu Godess being potrayed in wrong manner (as per my opnion)!

Nothing to do with Quran and Other Holy Books, Creation of Universe!

Goddess Lakshmi doesn't figure in Quran so mentioning Quran is irrelevant to the thread.

Answer my question, SA.

And I repeat it:

Shame on those who want to prove that the Quran is true based on science facts, these people who think that the Quran need science evidence to be true silly and considere amature.

Quran does not need any evidence to be proven it is true.

Let me ask you only one stupid question, SA. What do they teach in the majority of schools and universities all over the world? That the universe is 13.7 billion years old, or that it was created within seven days? Now, what does the majority teach? Answer me.

And remember that scientists made estimates.

I told you to look at Haron Yahya and by the way do not be like the people who look at the minor and forget the majority.

please have a look at the debates of Ahmed deedat at your home.

He is one of the best people who makes debate and look at the one which he made with an american soldier.

Ok lets go back to the topic.

lol, as usual now ...its SA versus SMS group(someone rightly said so..)..I'm out of it.... lol'ing.

I haven't had any bad experiences Straight Arrow.

That would be good for you and Tinkerbell but not for Paris Hilton, brit.

I have thought about this and still am unsure. I suggest that tinkerbell model the garment, so that we can make a proper informed decision.

And don't tell me now the people didn't know what a day or a year is. And we shouldn't measure it with our conceptions of time. Well, then, forget all the science, and stop using it in an absurd way to "prove" the Qur'an!

Which "Logic" is that that says, God created everything including the humans in seven days? It is absurd! You always quote science. What does it tell you? The universe was created 13.7 billion (!) years ago, and humans roam the Earth at best since 6 million years. How do you explain that obvious discrepancy?

No Flan the dot on the foreahead is the button you press to remove the swimsuit!

Straight Arrow, pilgram is right! There is no logic in any of the "Holy Books". They are not even following any rules of proper writing. The style is awful. It's only YOUR BELIEVE that makes them look 'beautiful' for YOU. But not for others.

Straight Arrow,

what happened to you respecting other's point of views?!

did you forget what we agreed?

painther,

Some would disagree with some of your points, particularly the last one, thus this discussion.

It's all good, as long as we feel ok and secure with ourselves.

Let the people express their art - its only how they see it, not always how "I" see it.

How dare you say some thing like this?

Shame on you Pilgram.

If you had a bad experience you must with your self and see what wrong things you did.

Ahh, same cock and bull stories going on in QL….

My take –

1. Is my faith system so weak and will tumble with such trivial shakes?...NO.. not at all- It survived for thousands of years amidst hardest of hurdles and will flourish.

2. Fact is it (this faith system) is traditionally open, flexible and if one seriously search will find many contrary perception including depiction of God/Goddesses in not so good scenes but the bottomline line is ‘intention’.

3. If someone wants to be happy hurting others, I woudn’t mind letting him happy. He’s already proved his stupidity. So such QLers (Frienchieman in this thread) God bless you PEACE and you remain HAPPY. Amen!!

4. Such trivial incidents are not worth a discussion in MY opinion.

Well there's nothing more illogical than the Holy Books! So don't follow them or you'll sink!

Some people making a lot of noise regarding something that they have not actually seen. Wish they would make a lot more noise regarding the corruption and looting going on there then this petty issues

Any book which is not logical will let you sink.

LOL, LP

Straight Arrow,

That’s what I am trying to tell you, what LP just did!

Who is to tell us the book is good or bad and that the other books are better or worse!

There are all books, let each one use the one he/she things is best for them.

Of course I don’t think you are imposing anything on anybody. You are just saying what you think!

You didn't hurt anyone (yet, I think) I said in the event you will declare that your religion is better than others, only then you will be hurting many others (not me).

:)

You may also drown because the book was shyte!!

1. If you have a book which teaches you to swim and then you sink in the sea, it will be your fault because you did not read and learn the book.

Let us say that there is a book which has many good deeds and habits in it, can you say that this book is of no value?

2. Nic, you are making a mistake as you always think that when I say something I am imposing it, I am saying my point of view which others share it with me and others do not.

3. To those who got hurt from my comments toward their religion in old posts, please accept my appology, I will not criticize in normal posts, I will only discuss it in the religious teaching groups.

happygolucky,

That’s ok.

I was talking about religions.

In the case of ideologies, not all have the same value. Some promote violence and kill, others don't.

As for religions they are all founded in peaceful principles its men the screws it all.

As for cultural traits (I believe is what you want to say), all are valid in their own context.

Nic...I wasn't talking of religion... I only gave an analogy based on what you have stated.

happygolucky,

For me, rest assured, all religions are equal and have the same value.

The way some human beings practice some of them is what bothers the rest of the world (sometimes including people from the religion in question, no matter which one).

Straight Arrow,

1 - If you have the best procedure in the world and you do not apply it, is there any value of this procedure?

Who will evaluate and identify “the best procedure”? For you not drinking wine is the best procedure, for at least 75% of the world disagrees. However you can still live with your best procedure so let the rest of the world live with their “best procedures”, too.

2 - I have said that religion is a free choice then how come you say that "The world does not revolve around your religion".

Because you seem to assume that what your religion says is valid for the entire world, which is obviously not.

3 - What sin did I commit to other religions in this post "Fashion Week swimsuit sparks Indian outrage"

I did not say you committed a sin in this post, what I said is if you do not accept other religions as equal as yours, you are suppressing their value and if you suppress them you would be committing a sin against their right to coexist equally with yours.

"The world does not revolve around your religion, all are equally created and valid"... same way world does not revolve around western way of living or ideologies, all others have their way of living and ideologies and they are valid...please accept that.

It is universals only when applied in the right way and at the right places and when people are ready.

Three questions Nic

1. If you have the best procedure in the world and you do not apply it, is there any value of this procedure?

2. I have said that religion is a free choice then how come you say that "The world does not revolve around your religion"

3. What sin did I commit to other religions in this post"Fashion Week swimsuit sparks Indian outrage"

Also the over speed is a major factor here, and the main factor is stubidity.

Any thing which is used much more than normal turns negatively on the person who is useing or doing this thing.

If indeed most accidents in Europe are caused by drunk drivers (which I doubt), then that is neither the fault of alcohol or even drinking, but stupidity. There is nothing dangerous about drinking socially amongst friends. I would argue driving your LandCrusier around at 180 km's an hour is far more dangerous, than a couple of pints with pals.

Straight Arrow,

What you can’t grasp is those protection measures are NOT universal, and by assuming they are, you are oppressing other views who have the exact same value as yours in other contexts.

The world does not revolve around your religion, all are equally created and valid, please accept that (as the rest of the world tries hard to accept yours within its context) otherwise you are committing a sin against other religions.

As for red wine being beneficial for health, read the following scientific based report:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089

whyteknight,

The debate wasn’t so much about this particular issue but more about the different perspectives and relationships people from different backgrounds have towards art.

It all good to me and most of us agree that the diversity of opinions and point of views is what makes this world so diverse and amazing!

are the protection for people and society, take the example of drinking wine, it is not allowed because God prohobitted us as Muslims from drinking it why?

Because it can harm us, the statistics in Europe and USA states that the first reason of death from car accidents are those who drunk.

What boundaries you want to look at Nic?

Boundries which can destroy your community or boundries which can protect your community and makes it better?

Nic, there is a difference between reading and understanding.

Too bad. It's a funky swimsuit. Maybe they could do it with Buddha instead.

Well the issue is dead anyway

"Ms. Burke’s label was quick to announce a halt in production, vowing that the Lakshmi swimsuit would never make it to stores."

Straight Arrow,

Who told you I have not read the Quran?

I have it at home, right next to the Bible and the Tanakh ;)

I am not a follower by a rational choice, not by ignorance as you always seem to believe ;)

The Quran suggests you to open your mind but within certain boundaries, just like any religion or political party does to its followers, otherwise they would put their ideologies at risk.

My religion Islam tought me that religion is a free choice, also there are many sentences in the holy Quran which tells us to open our mind and look wide.

Both Quran and the sayings of our prophet Mohammed PBUH establish the foundations of our beliefs.

Other wise there would not have been any science development by Muslims

here are some links

http://www.ais.org/~bsb/Herald/Previous/95/science.html

Here is one of the best links

http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/

Nic, you did not read the Quran so ofcourse your answers will be misleading, ok lets go back to the subject.

Guys sorry if some did not like this reply but I answered Nic.

Yes, IM. But some need more 'room' than others.

A person's freedom ENDS where another's rights BEGIN.

SA, the "right" way to use a gun is described in the manual you get when you buy it, and that is to point at the target and pull the trigger. And since I refuse to touch a gun, it may be millions of other people who have that mentality problem you mentioned. Do you own a gun?

case you have a mentality problem and you need to see a psychologist.

The right way of using a gun to defend your self against an attack when there are rule to protect you.

Alter Dusty,

I know but they would not endorse John Lennon's philosophy of life:

"...Nothing to kill or die for

And no religion too..."

I wished your background was in line with John Lennon's philosophy of life ;)

Straight Arrow,

What I meant with "Art is subjective" is that art is open to interpretations. It represents the expression of inner soul of the artist and it can be perceived by the viewer as something completely different, depending on each viewer’s.

What I meant with "so is its assessment criteria’s" is that what I just said, the criteria to interpret art are also subjective as it depends on each viewer.

What I meant with "and the last one is where we agree to disagree ;)" is that many people from more traditional and conservative backgrounds (your background), tend to think in accordance with a set of imposed rules and not from an individual perspective (my background)

As an example religion, does not allow you to think and interpret it in your own way, different from what it imposes on you as the only truth.

What if someone does not enter my home. I just want to kill someone, and I'm gonna use the gun in the right way. And the person is dead. It's good. Right? It must be good, as you said before.

When some enters your home and threatening to kill you and your family, and you have a gun.

Do not tell me you will give him a smile and so I am sorry.

I assume the person who deserves the meaning of a man, is the one who will use the gun in this case and free his family from this bad guy.

Nic

U wouldn't said it, if U ever knew how much the people of my cultural background love music.

tinkerbell10,

as usual, we are a great example of east meets west ;)

Can you clarify?

Khanan

we were agreed not to reveal it on public forum :(

Alter Dusty,

you are using a picture of a western artist (John Lennon) who would have no chances to survive in the culture you represent!

isn't it an odd contradiction ?!

In one European country there was a competition to choose the most beautiful ass for man and woman.

Unfortunately and sadly there are some people who think this kind of competitions are good thing.

So, what is the correct way to use a gun, Straight Arrow? The result, if used correctly, is someone is dead. That's a good result, indeed.

Alter!! You do remember the Map of Certain country I draw on your butt ;)

and I am thankful that I am born in a society where you are taught that free speech and expression should be in way that do not hurt the sentiments of others.

Why West (some) consider themselves superior to East and Eastern way of thinking..

when Leonardo Capri was painting Kate winslet when she was nude in the movie Titanic - it hurted my feelings very much.....:(

Nic

something acceptable in west, doesn't mean acceptable in other parts of world.

Straight Arrow,

Art is subjective so is its assessment criterias. and the last one is where we agree to disagree ;)

Alter Dusty,

for your surprise, and regardless of anyone's likes or dislikes, yes it can be ;)

doesn't harm others feelings, and I liked the point Arien said.

Every thing except few things when used in wrong way will not give good results, and when used in a correct way the results will be good.

tinkerbell10 ,

The question is their weight and their say in society.

They are not the US and the US is not the West.

Back to our initial discussion, those are the ones who would cry when they see the above Mary's picture. Did that stop the artist? Is their movement visible or even representative of the culture they are part of?

Will they threaten or kill?

No, the art movement goes on as usual, free with no boundaries.

I am happy that I was born in a world that creation is stimulated and allowed with no limits and I am OK that others think otherwise.

Diversity is the beauty of the world and even controls, fear and oppression, creates art!

It’s all good to me!

i wonder if paintings on Butts & Dicks is creation.

LP--maybe they need to put the CO2 molecule image on underwear.

when people will get civilized in particular parts of world who never miss a chance to offend others?

It's all about peanuts! Nobody is enraged about the way people, countries, governments ruin the Earth through their activities! Nuclear facilities pollute their location for more than 50.000 years to come. Aerosols are partly responsible for the ozon hole which produces skin cancer, but we use them every day. CO and CO2 ruin the atmosphere, but we still produce them. Plastic pollutes the surface and the oceans, but we produce more and more of it. Overfishing empties the oceans, but we keep on doing it. I am honestly outraged about the fact that weapons are produced making some people rich and others dead. But - who cares. Hypocrites, all of them!

People in the West get agitated about art and religion all the time. Just think of Andres Serrano's 'Piss Christ' in which he dunked a crucifix in his own urine, took a photo, and declared it modern art. His work was partly funded by a US government agency, and American Christians were outraged over it. Here's a link to the controversy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

Of course they did not burn flags and riot. And that is my second point. Protest needs to be in proportion to the crime. Murdering innocent people in Afghanistan because some idiot in Florida blasphemed is really stupid. Burning another nation's flag because one person in his probable ignorance offended you is also (albeit no equally because no one was murdered) stupid. I think that is nic's point about being civilized, and I agree with that part.

Having said that, the designer should apologize for the insensitivity and educate himself to avoid repeating the mistake. If he did it purposefully and knowingly, then I support his right of free expression.

Swimwear is not underwear...so no reason to get excited. I personally think it is fine. But why drag a Hindu Godess into it when Mother Mary could be a real hit in Australia. Hardly any people in Aus knows Laxmi so it would have been a better idea to put Mary in it.

tinkerbell10,

You are referring to the American conservative wing - they too have a similar behavior as the "East" conservative wing.

They do not represent the mentality that I was referring to, as they are seen in the west as extremist and usually compared with the other religion's extremists. They think the same way, just express it otherwise.

Hope it clarified your question.

tinkerbell10,

One last note, with all respect, the way western cultures deals with art, allows the existence of movement such as PUNKS, graffiti’s, Madonnas and Lady Gagas and many many 1000's of etc that in some how provoke the norms... These creative sources that provoke the establishment never or rarely face a universal condemnation (in the west).

This good and tolerant "relationship" with art, allows the artists to never be afraid of creating whatever they can imagine and want.

On the other side of the tolerant line, we have (as an example) some religious followers who would kill if someone would dare (implies fear) to express art in a certain manner which they would judge as blaspheme.

The overall results of both worlds is there to be compared and enjoyed accordingly!

We all know which side entertains the world today!

Yep, when one cannot differentiate between an animal and a human being there wont be any discussion on the likes which would make any sense....as it doesn't make today when talking of west.

LP I dont want to learn that art which will offend and hurt millions.

Its all about culture and civilization. We respect our national flag where in US they stitch thongs with that.

tinkerbell10,

Again, its how "we" see it and not the "it" itself.

Personally, if I don’t like it, I choose not to look at it.

I have no right to censor it, as I do not represent the entire world and I would be introducing restrictions to art creative process - a human natural ability!

That how we get such a diverse, dense and rich art scene in the west, more and more appreciated, followed and copied in the east.

Free thinking and Individualism versus Collectivism - is in my opinion what separates the two sides of this debate.

Interesting debate that exposes the way western cultures perceive and deal with art: an individual's creation which is interpreted by others in accordance with each individual's personal perception.

Eastern cultures appear to have a more conservative view, and prefer to draw lines in the creation process, perhaps seeing the process as a mechanical one, limiting the ingredients as well as the outputs.

It seems that the way art is seen and interpreted, is from a collective point of you (how a group dictates its interpretation) and individual's interpretations are not respected, thus the protest of a group protesting as if their views were universal.

Its all ok and culturally driven... times changes and cultures evolve, lets wait for 2900 and this discussion will no longer make sense.

Even the "Creator" did not please everybody. Or does anybody like this creation?

Maybe 'He' expressed his feelings this day?

My heart is beating faster after seein tat pic posted by Nic, is it the sign of weak heart ? :(

tinkerbell10,

In art, not everything pleases everybody! It’s the world we live in.

Does this mean that what does not please someone must be banned?

Its utopia, creation and art cannot be subjected to rules!

The value one puts on the creation is exclusively on his own eyes and mind. That brings the question, is the problem the creation or the one who criticize it/

This kind of rational, requires a set of mind that some cultures/religions are not yet prepared for (our debate here also is an example of this), but it will be a matter of time.

.. uh, and by the way, they were all naked anyway!

Since when did you wear swimwear under things? It's not underwear, it's swimwear. There's a difference.

This is picture of the Greek Goddess Aphrodite. It caused uproar in Greece, but not because of depiction of the Goddess, but because of the text saying: Betrayers in the Euro family (meaning Greece).

I say all the women should burn their underwears in protest and should stop wearing any :P

whyteknight,

Its art resulting from inspiration and creation does not need a logic reason, it happens organically all the time and has no boundaries.

It’s a human wonderful characteristic - thus the diversity of our world!

Jesus and the Virgin Mary have been depicted in basically every way imaginable...although perhaps not on swimwear as it would look as funky and cool.... Can't really imagine a big call for Jesus on a bikini...I might buy it though ;)

If it was the love for Art…it can be done in many other mediums … not in the undergarments.

You know nothing about art, Arien. Art is the artist's expression of his feelings. So, if someone thinks Mary is a sexy, hot woman, and he paints her in that way, it is perfectly okay. He feels this and he expresses it. And for the other one Mary is an old grandmother, and he paints her like this. There is no universal picture of any of the Gods. They are all formed in the minds of the people. And therefore each one has the right to express himself.

DaRuDe,

lol... if you persist, you'll get used to it.

A holiday in Ipanema Beach (Rio de Janeiro) will make you indifferent to this photo ;)

Nic ..secure belief or being free minded wont make anyone tolerate to people paint his moms pic on their dikcs and walk around. Will he praise the ART or chop that Pri.k off?

LincolnPirate ,

It used to be like that in the Middle Ages in Europe.

When I said it’s a matter of civilizational evolution I did not mean it in a pejorative way. It’s in fact and you’ll se that many of these uncomfortable reactions of this sort won’t make any sense in the year 2900!

You can watch a porn movie, WK, drink a bottle of Jack Daniels, and in no time you will forget about it!

LP its on the home page of every major newspaper and repeated on the news channels all the time. Unless I lock myself up, hard to look away in this case.

Nic what I was wondering is why did they choose a figure from a religion which is hardly present in Australia?

I doubt any Australian will know the name of the Goddess.

tinkerbell10,

With all respect, it’s a matter of security and perception of the messenger's value.

If we are secure with our believes and we know that this is only art, a personal and individual form of expression, nothing to do with the subject itself, also if we accept creation has no limits and its only art, then, let them create.

Not everybody like all art created, but that should never be the reason to castrate creation, regardless the topic used for inspiration.

Its good to be free minded I guess, and this type of posture in the world is not yet a general trend.

Some are contributing to get there, it will take centuries, but we’ll get there with some provocations here and there.

Peace and love

;)

thats a very very very disturbing picture ppl with weak heart wont last for long and might burst anytime

Again, I don't know why all these 'insulted' people do not know the simple mechanism of 'looking away' if they don't want to see something. Others do want to see it. If you don't want to, look the other way. But due to their deeply aggressive attitude (common to all religious people) they will always find a reason to fight against anyone who has a different view. That is indeed archaic!

WK,

Art is about expression to ignite and sometime provoke senses.

For Mother Mary, we don’t care, it already happened so it wouldn’t be novelty and it wouldn’t provoke a fuss (publicity) as this case is!

..why a God needs to work?

..agree with Nic if his opinion be same if other religious motifs or identities were used

The sculpture 'Jesus in Jeans' is a piece of art, showing Jesus as a man of the working class, since he was a carpenter. Now if he would have been a surfer, it would be appropriate to show him in swim wear. Unfortunately many Gods and Goddesses don't have any job, that's why they should be portrayed naked!

I did get ur point, just wanted to say that other societies do not think of demeaning Hinduism or Buddhism because they do not fear any backlash.

Some people are not taught to respect other's religious cultural sentiments.

This image sparked the protest

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_Zj1Z5-m9mw/TcVaOiq5KOI/AAAAAAAAGug/Q3hozUc0K88/s1600/Lakshmi+on+Bikni.jpg

Quite frankly I don't care but maybe these designers should have used Mother Mary's pics on the bikini to make it more popular. Why use figures from a religion which is hardly present in Australia.

A matter of civilizational evolution... they (the protestors) are not here (in the XXI century) yet.

..in the attitude and thinking between Semetic and Aryan religions.

BTW, just because u do not have Hindu or Buddhist crusaders or jihadis does not mean you can demean these religions..

There you go, RFS.

An island were all the extreme criminals were deported to became a country called Australia.

Why I never saw any shoes or bikini or jeans with having Jesus on it.Why they are always after Hindu Goddess or Gods.

Nice long thighs....

So I take it that its not buddha? Oh well, honest mistake.

Buddha....ROFL!

Hmm it looks okay I guess, though I would've skipped on that Buddha art in the middle if I was the designer, its way too big, seems a bit cluttered.

and LMAO @ flanostu that sniper comment cracked me up! xD

I SEE A CAMEL...sorry nothing..

Lol@ the sniper comment

A white owl is a good omen and is believed to bring prosperity to your home!

Yes that might be a reason. Laxmi is the Godess of Wealth.

Jealousy at the economic might of India which is growing by the day and Lakshmi does depict that.

Why is this Godess Lakshmi always embroiled in controversies. First MF Hussain draws the Godess in the nude and now this!

Big Thighs...... Nice !

people must've gotten really offended, there's even a snipers target on the model's forehead.

Fabulous design, i want one.

People really need to lighten up.