thanks for all the reply....now I know whats the true color of my manager....hes a law breaker hope he would be able to read all the comments to enlightened his greedy mind....thanks..
All my employees work shorter hours and we organise Ramadan get togethers and activities for all so the non-Muslims can experience something of the Month too if they wish. I wouldn't dream of asking my employees to carry on as normal and completely ignore the fact that it is Ramadan. I'd much rather they go home early and have a chance to at least rest before Iftar so they have some energy left for the evenings. I do think it is unfair of the school mentioned above to carry on as normal. I can guarantee the Head is not a Muslim or he would not make such a decision! Obviously some staff feel unhappy or there wouldn't be a letter sent to the Gulf Times. If all the employees in Dukhan have shorter woring hours you can bet there is a lot of ill feeling and resentment amongst the staff. Perhaps it is one of those schools where people's jobs are held over their head if they dare to complain in any way...
Our company's (Descon Engineering working in Ras Laffan) timings are 5:30 am to 2:30pm. Thank you Descon for decreasing our timings by one hour. Sadly 98% of the employees are muslims at Descon. One thing I forgot to ask my boss what should i tell the workers when they tell me that they cannot work in open sun as they are all fasting. My boss does not has to go out in the sun so he has no idea how damn difficuly it is to work without any shade
I re-read my post and I sounded a bit flippent. That wasn't my intention. Yes the letter made some good points BUT who do you think will get the blame for students not achieving the best grades if they lose 3 months plus of education(meaning classroom time) over their school career due to Ramadan?
I stress again the missed lessons can never be repeated, or if they are it will be at the expense of other vital areas of the curriculum.
I dont think Iftar is an issue because their partners are home at the earlier time so they can do that. And to be honest I haven't heard any of the Muslim teachers complain.
In an ideal world this issue would not arise, the school is just trying to come to the most benificial solution for the students. The school after all is there for them not the staff.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Thanks for answering with your opinion on not having shorter hours at your workplace. However your comment about Muslim staff knocking off early...is that based on what they say? They might see going home and preparing Iftar, reading the Quran and praying more worthy and devotional during the Month of Ramadan. Obviously someone does feel strongly, ie the letter I read in yesterdays Gulf Times. And that was written by a non-Muslim who I think made some good points. _______________________________________________________
All the muslim staff are dedicated professinals and we know that the children come FIRST. If you believe in a creator then Im sure he would see working with children for THEIR advancement as being more positive and worthy/devotional than knocking off work 2 hrs early.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
1) It's just someone making trouble, the letter is written by a made-up name, there is no one in Dukhan by that name. If they were that concerned they would have signed with their real name.
2) There are only 4 muslim teaching staff( but many support staff) and yes we will be working 6.45am till 2.30pm, however the children do 7.15 till 2.15. Younger children leave at 12.45(?) or 1.30 depending on their age.
Us non-muslim teaching staff(95%) do not mind no reduction in hours. We find it difficult enough fitting in the curriculum as it is over the year without having yet less time - we are here for the students after all.
You must remember that families have their leave spread over the whole year and have to take long vacations to their home countries during term time, this is very important- they CANNOT afford to miss anymore valuable learning time(this time cannot be repeated in the time left to us).
As teachers we are not entitled to any overtime and most of us work at home in the evening on preparation and/or marking 10-15hrs per week. We dont mind working the full hrs during Ramadan as its what the children need and are entilted to recieve from us. Now whether it legal or not is another question!
3) Is it not the fact that children should only start fasting when they reach puberty? Before that, I believe, it's dangerous to their health? Im sure I'll get some fierce responses to that! lol
This is as honest as I can be without breaking any confidences, and I have no idea about the internal politics of the situation.
Look forward to all your comments.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
The Levant countries have a much more relaxed attitue to Ramadan, in the sense that some food outlets are open during the day because they have indigenous Christian populations(ie Arab). The Christian Arabs and non-muslim ex-pats are very respectful of not eating in front of those fasting. I have sat in mixed staff rooms where no one who was fasting would dream of curtailing eating, their response was" it is I that am fasting not you, this is my test, please do not stop on my account"
They work longer hours than here and do find it hard and a test, so paradoxically they are more 'liberal' but observe Ramadan in the way it was intended.
This engenders a respect towards those who are fasting(90% of pop.) But here in Qatar because everything pretty much stops and is closed it encorages the attitude of 'that which is forbidden is all the more tempting' and 'rules are made to be broken'.
Just my observations. Ramadan Kareem.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Adey, what's all this about the QP school in Dukhan not allowed to work the QP Ramadan hours like everyone else??? I read it in the Gulf Times yesterday.
Yes you are correct, whilst travelling you are not required to fast. But as an aside we have already establised on another thread, by the charming Mrs(aka Airsupply), that the airport is not "a Muslim" ;D
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Joewilliams, your explanation of the law before was accurate. HH the Emir passed the decree for EVERYONE. Some expats are always banging on (and rightly so) about human rights in this country. I do hope they are not the ones making non-Muslims work longer hours...
Incidently, an English translation of the Labour Law can be found at
http://www.qatarembassy.net/Qatar_Labour_Law.asp
on the Qatari Embassy in Washington's website. The government is obviously keen to demonstrate to US citizens that the workforce here is protected by law; quite right too.
That is exactly my opinion. We are supposed to find it a testing time, a time of struggle...and all this malarkey about eating all night completely defeats the point of fasting all day. Our schedules do not change radically during this Month.
Good for QP (and Diamondgirl) for letting us know.
Other businesses who break the law should be named and shamed. I for one am not up for giving my money to those who so flagrantly disobey the government and ignore human rights. What does everyone else think? We should have a list on here of those who do so people know who not to shop with/deal with/work for!
I think it should be up to the restuarant owners to decide if they want to be open during the day in Ramadan. For many it may not be economically wise to open for a handful of non-Muslims. But not allowing any food sort of takes away from the point of fasting as a trail or a test.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I,for one, do not think that everyone who is NOT fasting should be hiding away and told they are not allowed to eat and drink in front of Muslims!
However I'm all for reduced working hours for employees as there is a desire to pray, reflect, etc, more during this Month and this also gives non-Muslims an opportunity to do this if they wish.
One interesting story on this topic occurred in Ramadan after the first gulf war when in QPHR (HO) the Blue Q building, all bags and briefcases were searched (looking for bombs). One of the QP guys had a flask in his briefcase. The security guard was really p'd off with this obvious disregard for Ramadan and barked "is this tea". The expat replied with equal vigour " of course not.........it's coffee" and carried on into the building.
QP employees work five hours per day in Ramadan. This applies to All employees (except maybe shift workers?). Those on shift work receive overtime if they work more than five hours.
Working hours of QP in Doha are 8.30am - 1.30pm...outside Doha I think its 7am -12pm.
When I joined QP in 82, we (non-Muslims) had the same hours as Muslims and were allowed access to drinks, albeit behind closed doors. Then one year, HO decided that we would work normal hours and in addition closed all the kitchens and turned off the water coolers. Never have I seen so many cars driving round West Bay with drivers having a fag.
Until I left in 97, the normal hours were still being applied to non Muslims but the kitchens were open for self-service.
I don't think that Qatar Labour Laws apply to the QP group of companies but it may be worth checking.
Personally, I gave the Muslims 30 minutes to get away and then told my non-Muslim staff that they could leave although I stayed myself to cover the phones in case anyone rang.
Joe Williams, I am fairly certain the union law apples to national staff only.
yeah, must be a mistake in the translation. There's a disclaimer attached to the English version which says that it is not authorities because it is not Arabic (much like the Koran, I suppose). There's your reason why!
NIB: your not the only one. This time last year I was working for a company that similarly ignored the law and made its workers work full time (some of my colleagues were working 12 hour days) and I suspect the labourers here are probably doing a lot worse than any of us on much less pay. I suspect His Highness is probably quite difficult to contact directly, but in section 135 the Labour Law also sets out provision for the Establishment of a "Work Inspection Organ" which has the authority to inspect work places and fine employers. I'm afraid I can't find anything in English on this organisation since the Labour Law was passed. Can any Arabic speakers help?
Similarly the law sets out the provision for the establishment of Trade Unions! Anyone heard of anything like this?
Otherwise: the National Committee for Human Rights is situated above the Qatar Airways Office on Salwa Road. Worth a try.
I do feel that your Manager himself is not a Muslim, even if he is so by name! A TRUE muslim would never think of material gain especially during Ramazan!
I think u should appeal to his sense of justice and also to the fact that you wont be able to eat outside, since the law prevents.
if all else fails, i think u should anonymously report it to the authorities! :-)
Whatever our opinions, His Highness the Emir has degreed that nobody should work more than six hours a day. It is ILLEGAL for your boss to make you do more. Simple as that.
Do the Ramadan eating, drinking and smoking rules apply for international travellers at Qatar airport? For those people waiting in the business lounge say?
i think it is fair the working hours are shorter for fasters because they wont have much energy while you will be running normal. just make sure everyone not to eat on the street or in the open during ramadan. someone went to jail for it. if yoyu want to eat, eat privately
Also, most of us must fast during working hours because we do not want to offend Muslim colleagues by eating or drinking in front of them in the office. Effectively, we all experience the same working conditions during Ramadan and should be treated the same by employers.
Company policies should apply to everybody equally regardless of their religious beliefs. Fasting is a personal and individual matter, why should they work less hours than the rest?
Not only unfair, but illegal. Below is section 73 from the Qatari Labour, passed by His Highness the Emir in 2004.
However, its also blindingly obvious that the Law has hardly ever been implemented. But if your boss is a law abider, he should go with it!
From what I can understand, and perhaps our Muslim friends could help more on this, the reduction of hours during Ramadan isn't to do with fasting (afterall, you still can't eat and drink even if you go home earlier than normal) but because Ramadan is a very special month in the Islamic calandar and all facets of life are affected because it is the Holy Month. Just because we are not Muslims, we are in a Muslim country and I think in this instance at least should concur with local practices.
Hope this helps.
Joe.
Article (73)
The maximum ordinary working hours shall be eighty four hours per week at the rate of eight hours per day with the exception of the month of Ramadan when the maximum working hours shall be thirty six hours per month at the rate of six hours per day.
The time spent by the worker in transportation to and from the place of work and residence of the worker shall not form part of the working hours.
The working hours shall include an interval or more for prayer, rest and taking of meals which interval or intervals shall not be less than one hour and shall not be more than three hours. The said intervals shall not be taken into consideration in calculating the working hours in fixing the rest interval but the worker shall not work for more than five consecutive hours.
The Minister shall by a decision specify the types of work in respect of which the work may continue without stoppage for the purpose of rest.
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thanks for all the reply....now I know whats the true color of my manager....hes a law breaker hope he would be able to read all the comments to enlightened his greedy mind....thanks..
All my employees work shorter hours and we organise Ramadan get togethers and activities for all so the non-Muslims can experience something of the Month too if they wish. I wouldn't dream of asking my employees to carry on as normal and completely ignore the fact that it is Ramadan. I'd much rather they go home early and have a chance to at least rest before Iftar so they have some energy left for the evenings. I do think it is unfair of the school mentioned above to carry on as normal. I can guarantee the Head is not a Muslim or he would not make such a decision! Obviously some staff feel unhappy or there wouldn't be a letter sent to the Gulf Times. If all the employees in Dukhan have shorter woring hours you can bet there is a lot of ill feeling and resentment amongst the staff. Perhaps it is one of those schools where people's jobs are held over their head if they dare to complain in any way...
_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
Our company's (Descon Engineering working in Ras Laffan) timings are 5:30 am to 2:30pm. Thank you Descon for decreasing our timings by one hour. Sadly 98% of the employees are muslims at Descon. One thing I forgot to ask my boss what should i tell the workers when they tell me that they cannot work in open sun as they are all fasting. My boss does not has to go out in the sun so he has no idea how damn difficuly it is to work without any shade
I re-read my post and I sounded a bit flippent. That wasn't my intention. Yes the letter made some good points BUT who do you think will get the blame for students not achieving the best grades if they lose 3 months plus of education(meaning classroom time) over their school career due to Ramadan?
I stress again the missed lessons can never be repeated, or if they are it will be at the expense of other vital areas of the curriculum.
I dont think Iftar is an issue because their partners are home at the earlier time so they can do that. And to be honest I haven't heard any of the Muslim teachers complain.
In an ideal world this issue would not arise, the school is just trying to come to the most benificial solution for the students. The school after all is there for them not the staff.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Thanks for answering with your opinion on not having shorter hours at your workplace. However your comment about Muslim staff knocking off early...is that based on what they say? They might see going home and preparing Iftar, reading the Quran and praying more worthy and devotional during the Month of Ramadan. Obviously someone does feel strongly, ie the letter I read in yesterdays Gulf Times. And that was written by a non-Muslim who I think made some good points. _______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
All the muslim staff are dedicated professinals and we know that the children come FIRST. If you believe in a creator then Im sure he would see working with children for THEIR advancement as being more positive and worthy/devotional than knocking off work 2 hrs early.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Regarding the QP school - 3 points
1) It's just someone making trouble, the letter is written by a made-up name, there is no one in Dukhan by that name. If they were that concerned they would have signed with their real name.
2) There are only 4 muslim teaching staff( but many support staff) and yes we will be working 6.45am till 2.30pm, however the children do 7.15 till 2.15. Younger children leave at 12.45(?) or 1.30 depending on their age.
Us non-muslim teaching staff(95%) do not mind no reduction in hours. We find it difficult enough fitting in the curriculum as it is over the year without having yet less time - we are here for the students after all.
You must remember that families have their leave spread over the whole year and have to take long vacations to their home countries during term time, this is very important- they CANNOT afford to miss anymore valuable learning time(this time cannot be repeated in the time left to us).
As teachers we are not entitled to any overtime and most of us work at home in the evening on preparation and/or marking 10-15hrs per week. We dont mind working the full hrs during Ramadan as its what the children need and are entilted to recieve from us. Now whether it legal or not is another question!
3) Is it not the fact that children should only start fasting when they reach puberty? Before that, I believe, it's dangerous to their health? Im sure I'll get some fierce responses to that! lol
This is as honest as I can be without breaking any confidences, and I have no idea about the internal politics of the situation.
Look forward to all your comments.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
The Levant countries have a much more relaxed attitue to Ramadan, in the sense that some food outlets are open during the day because they have indigenous Christian populations(ie Arab). The Christian Arabs and non-muslim ex-pats are very respectful of not eating in front of those fasting. I have sat in mixed staff rooms where no one who was fasting would dream of curtailing eating, their response was" it is I that am fasting not you, this is my test, please do not stop on my account"
They work longer hours than here and do find it hard and a test, so paradoxically they are more 'liberal' but observe Ramadan in the way it was intended.
This engenders a respect towards those who are fasting(90% of pop.) But here in Qatar because everything pretty much stops and is closed it encorages the attitude of 'that which is forbidden is all the more tempting' and 'rules are made to be broken'.
Just my observations. Ramadan Kareem.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Mine too.
Reminds me of Woody Allen though. "I have the body of a God. Buddha is a god, right?"
that the Chinese have passed a Law in Tibet banning his reincarnation, so he may well have a lot of turning to do. May need a drill bit also ;o)
Apologies to any Buddhists, no offense intended ...
Presumably he'd need quite a large coffin for that sort of manoeuvrability.
Adey, what's all this about the QP school in Dukhan not allowed to work the QP Ramadan hours like everyone else??? I read it in the Gulf Times yesterday.
_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
Budha will turn in his grave ............. lol
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
I've heard their Buddhist, but don't quote me.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Yes, Adey, I've often wondered to myself what religion airports are ;)_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
Yes you are correct, whilst travelling you are not required to fast. But as an aside we have already establised on another thread, by the charming Mrs(aka Airsupply), that the airport is not "a Muslim" ;D
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
Joewilliams, your explanation of the law before was accurate. HH the Emir passed the decree for EVERYONE. Some expats are always banging on (and rightly so) about human rights in this country. I do hope they are not the ones making non-Muslims work longer hours...
_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
Incidently, an English translation of the Labour Law can be found at
http://www.qatarembassy.net/Qatar_Labour_Law.asp
on the Qatari Embassy in Washington's website. The government is obviously keen to demonstrate to US citizens that the workforce here is protected by law; quite right too.
Joe Williams
[email protected]
That is exactly my opinion. We are supposed to find it a testing time, a time of struggle...and all this malarkey about eating all night completely defeats the point of fasting all day. Our schedules do not change radically during this Month.
_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
Good for QP (and Diamondgirl) for letting us know.
Other businesses who break the law should be named and shamed. I for one am not up for giving my money to those who so flagrantly disobey the government and ignore human rights. What does everyone else think? We should have a list on here of those who do so people know who not to shop with/deal with/work for!
Joe
Joe Williams
[email protected]
I think it should be up to the restuarant owners to decide if they want to be open during the day in Ramadan. For many it may not be economically wise to open for a handful of non-Muslims. But not allowing any food sort of takes away from the point of fasting as a trail or a test.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I,for one, do not think that everyone who is NOT fasting should be hiding away and told they are not allowed to eat and drink in front of Muslims!
However I'm all for reduced working hours for employees as there is a desire to pray, reflect, etc, more during this Month and this also gives non-Muslims an opportunity to do this if they wish.
______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
One interesting story on this topic occurred in Ramadan after the first gulf war when in QPHR (HO) the Blue Q building, all bags and briefcases were searched (looking for bombs). One of the QP guys had a flask in his briefcase. The security guard was really p'd off with this obvious disregard for Ramadan and barked "is this tea". The expat replied with equal vigour " of course not.........it's coffee" and carried on into the building.
QP employees work five hours per day in Ramadan. This applies to All employees (except maybe shift workers?). Those on shift work receive overtime if they work more than five hours.
Working hours of QP in Doha are 8.30am - 1.30pm...outside Doha I think its 7am -12pm.
_______________________________________________________
Love is the answer...
When I joined QP in 82, we (non-Muslims) had the same hours as Muslims and were allowed access to drinks, albeit behind closed doors. Then one year, HO decided that we would work normal hours and in addition closed all the kitchens and turned off the water coolers. Never have I seen so many cars driving round West Bay with drivers having a fag.
Until I left in 97, the normal hours were still being applied to non Muslims but the kitchens were open for self-service.
I don't think that Qatar Labour Laws apply to the QP group of companies but it may be worth checking.
Personally, I gave the Muslims 30 minutes to get away and then told my non-Muslim staff that they could leave although I stayed myself to cover the phones in case anyone rang.
Joe Williams, I am fairly certain the union law apples to national staff only.
i know. thats why i said its stupid. someone shud translate the law correctly to my company:)
No, worker in this context doesn't mean proletarian. It means someone who works ie anyone in employment That's all of us.
Jauntie:
yeah, must be a mistake in the translation. There's a disclaimer attached to the English version which says that it is not authorities because it is not Arabic (much like the Koran, I suppose). There's your reason why!
NIB: your not the only one. This time last year I was working for a company that similarly ignored the law and made its workers work full time (some of my colleagues were working 12 hour days) and I suspect the labourers here are probably doing a lot worse than any of us on much less pay. I suspect His Highness is probably quite difficult to contact directly, but in section 135 the Labour Law also sets out provision for the Establishment of a "Work Inspection Organ" which has the authority to inspect work places and fine employers. I'm afraid I can't find anything in English on this organisation since the Labour Law was passed. Can any Arabic speakers help?
Similarly the law sets out the provision for the establishment of Trade Unions! Anyone heard of anything like this?
Otherwise: the National Committee for Human Rights is situated above the Qatar Airways Office on Salwa Road. Worth a try.
i am not worker. our workers will work 6 hrs a day..i know its crazy..
Is there any exception for vegetarians from working long hours during Ramadan? Coz they dont touch non veg during nonramadan time.....
Kindly clarify..... Does fasting take a person closer to God? In what way do people blessed?
Tell your manager to read the Labour Law. It is absolutely clear. All workers shall have a six hour day. There is no reference to fasting at all.
I think 'travelling Muslims' are exempt from fasting, aren't they? Don't quote me, just something I thought was the case.
No cracks about magic carpets purleasee !
I have been in the airport during Ramadan in the past and there were no restrictions in any of the departure areas. Hope that helps.
I don't go to mythical places with strange men.
-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.
i will be working 10 hours a day in ramadan as usual even if i fast. shall i complain to emir?
Just read your post ...
"exception of the month of Ramadan when the maximum working hours shall be thirty six hours per month at the rate of six hours per day".
Had me counting on my fingers lol Hub will be working 7.00-2.00, six days a week so, with an hour for lunch, that makes the 36 hours a WEEK.
Hmmm your's says per month !!! a typo from the original article I guess. I'm confused now ...
I suppose his Japanese Company are following the regulations ?
I do feel that your Manager himself is not a Muslim, even if he is so by name! A TRUE muslim would never think of material gain especially during Ramazan!
I think u should appeal to his sense of justice and also to the fact that you wont be able to eat outside, since the law prevents.
if all else fails, i think u should anonymously report it to the authorities! :-)
Whatever our opinions, His Highness the Emir has degreed that nobody should work more than six hours a day. It is ILLEGAL for your boss to make you do more. Simple as that.
Do the Ramadan eating, drinking and smoking rules apply for international travellers at Qatar airport? For those people waiting in the business lounge say?
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"Every adult of sound mind, should be able to choose to do whatever they want, as long as they cause no harm to others".
i think it is fair the working hours are shorter for fasters because they wont have much energy while you will be running normal. just make sure everyone not to eat on the street or in the open during ramadan. someone went to jail for it. if yoyu want to eat, eat privately
Also, most of us must fast during working hours because we do not want to offend Muslim colleagues by eating or drinking in front of them in the office. Effectively, we all experience the same working conditions during Ramadan and should be treated the same by employers.
Joe.
Joe Williams
[email protected]
For those who dont fast and so work longer hours, does this mean they can then eat, drink and smoke in public/their offices? :)
...i fast?
Company policies should apply to everybody equally regardless of their religious beliefs. Fasting is a personal and individual matter, why should they work less hours than the rest?
Not only unfair, but illegal. Below is section 73 from the Qatari Labour, passed by His Highness the Emir in 2004.
However, its also blindingly obvious that the Law has hardly ever been implemented. But if your boss is a law abider, he should go with it!
From what I can understand, and perhaps our Muslim friends could help more on this, the reduction of hours during Ramadan isn't to do with fasting (afterall, you still can't eat and drink even if you go home earlier than normal) but because Ramadan is a very special month in the Islamic calandar and all facets of life are affected because it is the Holy Month. Just because we are not Muslims, we are in a Muslim country and I think in this instance at least should concur with local practices.
Hope this helps.
Joe.
Article (73)
The maximum ordinary working hours shall be eighty four hours per week at the rate of eight hours per day with the exception of the month of Ramadan when the maximum working hours shall be thirty six hours per month at the rate of six hours per day.
The time spent by the worker in transportation to and from the place of work and residence of the worker shall not form part of the working hours.
The working hours shall include an interval or more for prayer, rest and taking of meals which interval or intervals shall not be less than one hour and shall not be more than three hours. The said intervals shall not be taken into consideration in calculating the working hours in fixing the rest interval but the worker shall not work for more than five consecutive hours.
The Minister shall by a decision specify the types of work in respect of which the work may continue without stoppage for the purpose of rest.
Joe Williams
[email protected]