somali woman executed by stoning..

palacegarden, are you for real? by your vocabulary, it strikes me that you dont know what you are talking about....

You have to separate between the text and the human act before you judge a religion. You cant judge an ideology by a follower but by its teachings.

I would presume you already knew this which is strange.

Yeah......didnt you know

Ayaan Hirsi Ali admitted that she made up the stories to get asylum and a citizenship.

get updated and dont fall for con artists

How long will we still see so much nonsense in name of a "revealed" religion, all this just shows how fake is it like all other revealed religions.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Just to put things right: The "woman" was thirteen years old and according to her aunt she was raped by three men. When she reported to the police they arrested her for adultery and she was stoned to death. Bonne appetite.

I have Ayaan's book infidel in which she write about how women are treated in Somalia in the pretext of Islam. How poor baby girls are made to go thru female circumcision. Please read the novel "Infidel" It is really a heart wrenching story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali

I cheer for Sharia law.

dont like it?...dont go to somalia...plain and simple.

I think "One Forcible Rape every 5.6 minutes" is pretty disgusting.

If you had a slight understanding of Sharia law you would understand what "She was asked several times to review her confession" means.

it means that the woman came to them 4 times and admitted to her crime and they tried to make her change her mind.

Thats the process taken in such cases.

Notice calling this barbaric is calling our Prophet barbaric and we do not tolerate that.

Its also calling Jesus barbaric but that your own problem.

"Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another."

This is gruesome. its ok to punish a lady who eats in husband's plate and sleeps with some other guy, but for the one who is raped..the rapists desrve this not the victim I suppose.

I am confused, I cannot understand this world, but for sure i cannot understand this "religious" people. Which kind of Good are they obeying, Come on, please, regardless the name u call your God, there is no God that comes with a rule that says that at 13 years old, after being raped u have to be stoned to death.

Humans are taking the role of God, and I hope He punishes them here and in the other life.

For sure this people, the ones that raped her, the ones that give her the sentence, the ones that stoned her, and the ones that "enjoyed the show", they dont have mother or sisters.

God forgive me for judging

Peace

First of all I am really proved of you Smart buddy u r in struggle and clearing the misconception in this incident by your well language and witness ,lord may grand u all nimaths,u don't be tensioned and be cool in this situation Allah with those who are in passion .................................

palacegarden: it ain't a matter of religion but of culture, crimes happen everywhere, do you know in the U.S. a rapist or pedophile maybe castrated chemicly ?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

how peoples are call this as baberic act, such god laws only making human to live as human been, for example see the diffent between arab countries(who follow islamic law)and other countries in the world, where are the more offense happening in the world.if law not much strick, so peoples are make mistakes like drinking water, if punishment is high the people afraid to commit,father raping dauther, son raping mother,is it civilization ???? ist humanbeen ???

Chichi: "Well, I was trying to point out that "stoning" exists 2000 yrs ago."

It existed in the old roman empire, just like crucificion (hope i'm writing it right) but we have been updating laws since that time, because new features have showed up and people on our days have more concern regarding the lost of a human life than Romans had when they did those bloodsheds on the "coliseum" with man/woman/child being slaughtered for the Roman People amuse.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Well, I was trying to point out that "stoning" exists 2000 yrs ago. Even hanging ang cutting of the head is still practised especially in the Arab countries. We cannot do anything for it is their rule and that we must abide it.

Indeed the story in the bible, she did not die for the people that was there were sinners as well...

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"Ask the Lord to bless your plans and you will be successful in carrying them out." - Proverbs 16:3

Absolutejaguar: It just confirms that Shariah must be actualized.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Oh how the arguments start without knowing all the facts. This is at least the 3rd case this year that has got QL all riled up.

Stoning must be a horrendous way to die.

I read in a Canadian news paper that she had been raped, and because there weren't 4 witnesses she was convicted of adultery.

Some laws need to change if you are stoned after being raped.

Mandi: Thanks for clarifying that to him ;)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Er, Chichi, Mary Magdalene wasn't stoned to death as a prostitute or an adulteress. She was alive and well at Jesus' resurrection. As a matter of fact, she is never mentioned as an immoral woman, only as a woman in need of Christ's healing in scripture. The woman whom you refer to is an unnamed woman "caught in adultery." It was not Mary Magdalene and this unnamed woman was not stoned either presumably because of Jesus' intervention and his words to the crowd, "He who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Mandi

"In the stage of Kismayo, where there was about a thousand spectators, reveals the British daily The Guardian, was opened a hole in the ground where they buried Aisha, hand and foot folded, still trying to resist her executioners. A group of 50 men threw stones against her, that had been brought to the stadium for the purpose. Three times, Aisha was removed from the hole and observed by nurses that confirmed she was still alive. And the stoning continued ... until death.

"The stoning was totally illogical and had nothing religious. The Islam does not execute women for adultery unless four witnesses and the man with whom she committed adultery will certify it publicly," said Aisha's sister, whose family, shows the Mail online, is furious with what happened and whose father ensures that the victim was only 13 years. That was 13th. of a family of six brothers and six sisters and was born in the refugee camp of HAGARD, in southern Kenya in 1995, where the family came three years before fleeing from Mogadishu. Aisha, who suffered from epilepsy, was returning to the Somali capital and had to stop in the town Kismayo, that the extremists militia captured last August.

The stoning of Aisha was condemned by the presidency of the European Union and International Amnesty, while Al-Shabab militia continues their policy of radicalization of society of Kismayo."

Source: http://dn.sapo.pt/2008/11/03/internacional/jovem_somali_morta_apedrejamento.html

This is what came on the portuguese newspaper about this event.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Chichi: Do you remember when was the episode of Mary Magdalene?

Aren't you forgeting Jesus words: " The one amongst you that hasn't sinned can through the 1st stone "

After this, all retreated without stoning her.

How many countries in Europe or America do you know that still stone people to death? I tell you, none, even better, most countries are abolishing death penalty.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Forgiveness is there but we are living in reality and that we must abide the rules. If that was her sentence, then be it.

This is exactly the same story with Mary Magdalene in the bible. She was stoned to death due to her adultery and prostitution but God forgave and cleansed her from her sins for she asked repentance....

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"Ask the Lord to bless your plans and you will be successful in carrying them out." - Proverbs 16:3

Who says Islam is in no need for new ideas, then what does Ijtehad mean? Please be responsible when making such a big claim.

Existence is a heavy burden, only high spirited ones can bear it. 

"MOGADISHU, Somalia – A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.

Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.

Initial local media reports said Duhulow was 23, but her father told Amnesty International she was 13. Some of the Somali journalists who first reported the killing later told Amnesty International that they had reported she was 23 based upon her physical appearance.

Calls to Somali government officials and the local administration in Kismayo rang unanswered Saturday.

"This child suffered a horrendous death at the behest of the armed opposition groups who currently control Kismayo," David Copeman, Amnesty International's Somalia campaigner, said in a statement Friday."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_ ... af_somalia

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

So a Muslim woman can have sex with someone other than her husband as long as she only lets 3 people watch (or 2 people if she thinks the guy she's doing it with might testify as well)?

Sorry to be crude, I'm just trying to understand.

point is , this is totally wrong. east or west , i guess we are free to say what we think about the killing.

she must have been very guily of committing such for she wanted that kind of sentence.

"Ask the Lord to bless your plans and you will be successful in carrying them out." - Proverbs 16:3

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Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

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Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

well i dont know what you are trying to get but what i said is clear. what Al Shabaab did is unacceptable to all Muslims including me.

secondly, If the ruling is implemented by a islamic state with islamic goverment and full justice is provided the ruling for adultery is stoning (depending on maritial status) and no Muslim is apologetic about sharia law when implemented correctly and that is what i have said.

but let me repeat it for you, al shabaab did not and cannot implement full sharia law and justice system in somalia now and that makes their action a murder.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Why do there have to be four witnesses?

western propaganda, ... well thats what you said. i have news for you my friend . there is no western propaganda.....

"its up to God to judge this people who killed a lady this way thats all i can say.."

I do think they need to be judged by mortal's law

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

ringo realsome doesnt want to accept that this is wrong.. its up to God to judge this people who killed a lady this way thats all i can say..

ringohiqups i dont appreciate taking words out of context, read what i said if you want me to copy and paste it for you again here its . see the paragraph in italic.

Well let me tell you three things,

first,. the punishment of adultery is stoning (depending on the marital status). as a Muslim i am not apologetic about this law.

second. this particular ruling is troubling me because it fairly seems to be a misuse of law, ( I dont mean to believe the western propaganda) but to my own observations.

three. lots of more extreme horror stories happen in Somalia.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Ringo: I don't think RS is blaming the West.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

realsome western propaganda??? here we go again. everything is the wests fault to you isnt it? a lady is gruesomely stoned to death and you say western propaganda? are you kidding me ? why do you always have to blame the west? i just dont get it ?was it the west that stoned her ?

"Islam calls for mercy not brutality"

Fully agree with you, all religions speak about mercy against brutality.

"There is lot of confusion in the ruling that prompts for its total abolition. That is the reason it is not being implemented anywhere. Such movements should be crushed before they emerge...

The wise call it my Islam.."

I agree, the true muslims will be the ones who'll finish with all these extremists like the Taliban or others

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

This is the emergence of yet another taalibaan and will meet the fate of taalibaan soon. Shame on those who call it Islamic. Islam calls for mercy not brutality. There is lot of confusion in the ruling that prompts for its total abolition. That is the reason it is not being implemented anywhere. Such movements should be crushed before they emerge...

The wise call it my Islam..

Well let me tell you three things,

first,. the punishment of adultery is stoning (depending on the marital status). as a Muslim i am not apologetic about this law.

second. this particular ruling is troubling me because it fairly seems to be a misuse of law, ( I dont mean to believe the western propaganda) but to my own observations.

three. lots of more extreme horror stories happen in Somalia.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

RS/Smartbuddy : When i mean updating i mean, complete it to prevent that these kind of abuses continues to happen, law can't have several different meanings, must have only 1 meaning and can't be subject too different interpretations to suite some folks.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

The news is so sensationalised by using the word "Islamists" too many times in the article.

'The stoning was totally irreligious and illogical,' said her sister, who asked not to be named. 'Islam does not execute a woman for adultery unless four witnesses and the man with whom she committed sex are brought forward publicly.'

This is what is correct and this is what Quran says:

An-Noor [24:4] And those who accuse chaste women, and produce not four witnesses, flog them with eighty stripes, and reject their testimony forever, They indeed are the Fâsiqûn (liars, rebellious, disobedient to Allâh).

The four witnesses have to testify that she committed adultery. If there are less than 4 witnesses and if they accuse the women of adultery the 3 have to be lashed, this is how Chastity of women is protected in Islam.

Al-shabaab are Killers if they did it without following Shariah Law of witnesses and proving the adultery, this case is complicated due to different presentations of the news.

realsomeone...those horrific actions do occur, but pls do not deflect and try to defuse people's horror at this incident. Mayhap they will be talked about one day, but today, the discussion is about this woman/child and if she was stoned and why

i dont care if the lady is 13yrs or 55 yrs, what matters is that a man stoning a woman to death in 2008, and you think this is right...this is barbaric. should stop. lots of countries practice the sharia,that i have been to... but you dont see them all stoning people to death.???

u said:

statistics of what?

Are you kidding me?

How many rape cases are actually reported? And that’s not only in Qatar!

No I am not kidding u, go through the data and make a comparison and Yeah u could make that accusation of cases going unreported, inspite of the fact that the media, human rights etc are all waiting for every possible opportunity to blow up crime in muslim world to bash Islam....if someone has a mouth, he can speak/shout, say anything truth, lies, accuse, abuse etc. People would ignore the figures which are published but argue on something which is just another accusation.

You said: My Aunt is one of few Qatari women Lawyers, she’ve been struggling for a ruling in a rape case that been postponed for the last 3 years over the judge reluctance to give a ruling in the case.

Maybe what u said is true or just another accusation, who knows just to add some push up to your accusation of unreported cases u add this story? Like i say everyone who has a mouth talks, some speak truth, some accuse, some abuse, which kind are u?

How ever this lady was killed, she is not the first women to be killed in Somalia in what ever way, Ethiopian soldiers remove throats of children and women that is how they kill. did you hear anyone on QL talking about it?

the point is as for myself i am deeply troubled by this action of al-shabaab after learning more about the story, one example that tells u they misuse the sharia is they arent the authority that can implement full sharia law and justice in the country and therefore shouldnt be doing this kind of rulings.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

If people misuse the Law, the Law is not to be blamed but people have to be blamed and punished for misusing the law.

This is a common practice for any individual criminal activity the entire Muslim world and Islam is blamed.

If a Bad driver bangs a Ferrari Car into a wall, who is to be blamed the driver or Ferrari Car? Same thing goes with Islam, blame the people, punish the people, take the accused to trial instead of putting Islam to trial for individual actions.

If these people killed the women for being Raped and accused her of adultery then those people are enemies of Humanity and worst of so called "muslims".

statistics of what?

Are you kidding me?

How many rape cases are actually reported? And that’s not only in Qatar!

If you’re an Arab , I suggest you read the last page in Arab dailies & read about cases in Jordan, Egypt & Saudi

My Aunt is one of few Qatari women Lawyers, she’ve been struggling for a ruling in a rape case that been postponed for the last 3 years over the judge reluctance to give a ruling in the case

A bit more to the story

http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/somalia-girl-stoned-was-child-13-20081031

thanks a lot for ur explain

Thanks but no thanks buddy, no need to update the Sharia law. there is only one need and that is people to learn how to implement the sharia correctly (the way the prophet(bpuh) did.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

You said:

throughout the Arab world there were 100's of unjust rape cases.

Just or unjust who would decide that, YOU? Throughout the Arab world there were Rape cases that could be counted easily but throughout America(for example), there are countless rape cases, if u hear rape in america its just another news but if u hear Rape in Arab world its the biggest news grabbing all attention, u know why because something which happens everyday is just another thing but something which happens seldomly is a big event.

How many Rapes have u known to have taken place in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain etc and compare with the number of Rapes taken place in USA alone?

You Said: Just admit it Sharia law can't deal with Rape. and spare us your conspiracy theories.

Sharia Law is the ONLY Law which dealt with Rape, see around the Arab world and compare the statistics of Rapes with the developed world, u would get the answer which law failed, Shariah law or the Law of people?

Anyhow as i stated before, this is another example of why is it needed to update Shariah laws, if not, whenever an error occurs, the person that commited that error will be punished but they also need to be punished in this world, Kill is not an option.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

You asked: WHO committed the crime, the victim or the rapists?

These are two separate scenarios, Punishment of Rapist is "Death" in Islam. You are making your own assumption that she was Raped.

If she was "Raped", the rapists are to be "executed", period.

First get only one story then argue what is right and wrong, if there are different stories of which we are not sure which one is right/truth, there is no point in arguing.

who told u Sharia law can't deal with Rape

i am sure there is none of you closer to this story then me, if you let me explain what i have observed and end this discussion.

1. we dont know the age of this lady.

2. if she was raped or not is not clear. i havent heard any rape talk other then this website.

3. its not clear if the women was arrested or if she confessed.

4. the militia that made the ruling claimed the lady pleaded guilty.

5. about 3(some say 1) of her relatives died at the scene of the execution due to violence eruption (this raises doubt on the idea of confess).

6. the man who is involved is not known, if she confessed. the adultery may have taken place long time back (Allah knows best).

7. the militia that made the ruling claimed they repeatedly told her to think about this (this may prove confess).

8. some people claim the lady may have been mentally unstable.

that is all i observed.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

smartbuddy, throughout the Arab world there were 100's of unjust rape cases. Just admit it Sharia law can't deal with Rape. and spare us your conspiracy theories

Lets go with the worst case scenario? Your 3). She is 13 right? She did or did not commit what she is accused of. smartbuddy, WHO committed the crime, the victim or the rapists?

Btw number 4) is such an escapist mentality. Im sure you can do better than that, "smart"buddy.

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smartbuddy, explain how a 13 year old girl is a woman!!!!

There are different versions of the same news everywhere, It depends on which u believe....

1) If she is a women and she did confess the crime.

2) If she is a women who did not confess the crime but was falsely punished by some people in name of religion.

3) If she was only 13 years old girl and she did or did not commit what she is accused off.

4) Another made up "news" to start Islam bashing.

Which one u believe in?

smartbuddy, explain how a 13 year old girl is a woman!!!! Start there wont you before you go giving us lectures. And then define adultery.

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Adultery or not, it should be a private business between her, her husband and her lover.

What is scary, is certain people thing that they can impose their lunatic behavior on others in the name of whatever they believe!

Smoke, i learnt a bit of kung fu when i lived in china, so im sure my martial arts skills will come in handy... knock some teeths out...:-)

ringohiqups how do you suggest u do that when ur buried upto ur head in the ground? anyways i'm also against such an act :)

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

_[]~SMoKE~[]_

smoke, at least i will have a chance to defend myself by taking at least 1 of the stone hungry mob with me if they try ...the poor lady im sure had no chance at all.

smoke they are bastards.. 4 sure...i support him

such a sad situation. how can you stone a woman to death?

who is this infidel who used the word BASTARD here... blasphemy STONE HIM!!

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

_[]~SMoKE~[]_

ask the bastards who killed her if non of them has ever commited a sin??? no body is a perfect.why kill her? Only God can judge, not man.

does any faith promote the taking of a life?i doubt it....Life is God's gift to us and i feel only He has the right to take it away from us.who are we to take His role?

this is such a sad state of things.i mean,even in this day and age such things happen.i really feel sorry for the lady for having had to die in such a painful way.

Keep smiling!

Saggi!

People who misuse the religion of turning a Rape into Adultlery case (if thats true) deserved a strict punishment both in this world and in the hereafter.

The laws are perfect, Adultery is a big crime in Islam, for some non-muslims adultery is part of life so they feel angry about such punishments. But in Muslim Society Adultery is to be punished and the punishment is set as an exmaple for others not to indulge in such crime.

You call it Barbaric but its a predefined punishment, if u commit adultery and its proved then u are stoned, period. If u don't want that punishment stay away from it.

In this case, the people who gave the punishment were not authorized to do so, hence its wrong. The women confessed (if she did) then she is brave, she knows the reward of the hereafter life(which most people replying here don't believe, for them this life is everything) but if she did not confess and there were not 4 witnesses to prove the case then the group committed a murder for which they should be held guilty according to Shariah law.

Islamic Laws can protect the world, its the fear factor which keeps people on track. If there were no fear of fines, people will seldomly obey traffic signals, if there were no fear of police action, robbery would be a common practice, if there is no fear of punishment from parents, kids would be spoiled and a black spot to society.

A Father is always cruel to be kind, similarly Laws of Almighty appear tough but ONLY for the perpetrators of the laws.

She is a Muslim.. May ALLAH bless her in her new never ending life...

The "woman" was 13 yrs old and her crime was to report that she had been raped by 3 men. Why is that that when it comes to "adultery" it is always the women who are punished and the men go unpunished? Is this "God's will" or the will of men perhaps?

When I lived in Q8 in the 90's there was a report of a filipino woman working as a maid who had been repeatedly raped by her sponsor. She was pregnant by him and had already born his child, who was now 2 yrs old. She was jailed for 3 yrs. No mention of the Q8i.

Is this Islamic justice? No, it is too warped for that.

It said the women reported she was raped by 3 men and later was accused of commiting adultery. I guess these men have contacts at high level and managed to get away...b**tards...may God hav emercy on the poor woman. Whether she did it or not, she is a human being afterall, full of sins like the rest of us. But I did not read anywhere that she apparently wanted to be stoned to death

Here is the link to he article.

http://news.aol.co.uk/world-news/rape-victim-13-stoned-to-death/article/20081101091845191741867

Man, I think I can pull a trigger on a serial killer or rapist but throwing stones at someone till he/she dies,,that just spells horrendous in my fragile and weak mental state. Wow, you must have guts to do that.

Rassadko: exactly

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

At those times catholic church burn people for the same reason, but that was 400 years ago, brutal and primitive times.

The Bible was reinterpreted as man kind develop, is time for the sharia too

Check mate.....

I want to but I could not trust CNN for everything. It has its own agenda. Will somebody inform us more about this girl, especially if he or she is from the same country or nearby regions. It cruilty to stone such a girl for this kind of act she committed. But don't forget that daily USA war planes bombards villages in Afghanistan killing innocent civilians but I rarely hear from Westerner to bother themselves about it.

Existence is a heavy burden, only high spirited ones can bear it. 

Still shouldn't happen

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

How can somebody who unmarried be accused of adultery. That would be fornication.

Hmmmn, interesting, she doesn't press charges for rape and then she's condeemed to death because had sex?

Nice way to "please" God :(((

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/01/amnesty.rape.somalia.ap/index.html

She was a child who had been raped by three guys!

Tell me again how this is considered adultery???

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According to newspaper today,

she was not a woman - she was just a teenager of 14 years old.

She was raped by some guys, and she went to court.

They convinced her to retire the accusation, and when she did, she was inmediatly accused of adultery (sex without been married???? - I dont understand either).

During the punishment, the crowd tried to save her, but guardians started to fire against the people (one child dead, and six people injured).

Very sad story...

I agree with MD "everybody should be stoned" - This world needs fumigation...

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaall are correct in their thinking ,this is against humanism ect....the modern world stating the solution of aids or it's related hell that wear this and be connected do what u wish ........this is rubbish against humanity ??? u wanted to prevent the crime u have to strict the law otherwise tomorrow u will be victimized finally my point if you accept the Kalima Lailaha illalah (Ther is no god but only one god u will be convenience ,there is no objection from ur side ,it will be being held through all part of world the Zionists trying to stop the fastest growing & spreading Islam in Europe and U.S, the last ceremony delivered by Pop Benedict.... in Vatican that "what is going in world we are spending thousand for spreading Christianity in world but only 16.30 % Christians in world but Muslims are being increased till 17.45 % ..........", this is what going in surround world ,just say this kalmia u will be a winner in two world

"everybody should get stoned". (Bob Dylan)

Agreed Adey. I have been a proponent of that philosophy since I became a Muslim. Part of the reason I see Brits as so hard to talk to about Islam is that they have seen 'Muslims' for 3 to 4 generations now not being Muslims.

Many "Muslims" could do Islaam a favor and not ascribe themselves to it.

As a few of us say... "Thank God I found Islaam before I found the Muslims" and many of them should thank God I found Islaam before I found them because they would have gotten clapped upside the head in all honesty by the person I was before Islaam...

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

one should not profess to have a religion if one does not know what it entails.

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

Adey, this is vigilantism pure and simple coupled with ignorance of their religion. The 2 have nothing to do with each other. Maybe you should open a new thread for this article under when will Muslims stop being vigilantis?

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

So religion, Somali style, has caused more than one death this week - see article:

"Somali youth was killed 'in row over alcohol and Islam'

* Angela Balakrishnan and agencies

* guardian.co.uk,

* Tuesday October 28 2008 16.31 GMT

* Article history

A gang of five men beat a Somali teenager to death because of a row over Muslims drinking alcohol, a court heard today.

Ahmed Mohammed Ibrahim, 17, was repeatedly hit across the head with a samurai sword, baseball bat, machete and metal pole after being chased in Sefton Park, Liverpool, in March this year.

The teenager became embroiled in the fight after accompanying his cousin, Ahmed Mahamoud Ahmed, 16, to a "straightener" – a one-on-one fight – with the alleged killer Ali Mohammed, 19.

Liverpool crown court heard how Mohammed is believed to have accused Ahmed of breaking Muslim rules by drinking alcohol and held him down while a friend hit his head with a bat.

The 16-year-old boy was chased home where his mother's car windows were smashed, said Tim Holroyde QC, prosecuting.

The next day, Ahmed was lured to the fight - where Mohammed, his two brothers Khadar, 23, Essa, 22, and two cousins lay in wait, it was claimed.

During this attack, part-time student Ibrahim of Ritson Street, Toxeth, was killed and another cousin Abdhullah Mohammed Ahmed, 17, was severely injured and lost a finger.

"One of the defendants was heard to shout 'He's still alive'," Holroyde said.

"All five defendants then joined in a continued attack with weapons on the deceased as he lay, obviously helpless, on the ground.

"The deceased was left lying in the road with obvious and severe injuries to his head which were bleeding profusely.

"A passing motorist stopped to assist, an ambulance was called and the deceased was taken to hospital, but nothing could be done to save his life and he died about two hours later, at 1.20am."

A pathologist confirmed that there was "extensive fracturing of the skull… and other damage to the brain within the skull".

The three brothers from Toxteth deny murder. As do their cousins Ibrahim Ahmed, 23, of, Toxteth and Ahmed Kayse Ahmed, 30, of Greenwich, London.

The three brothers deny wounding with intent - relating to the attack on Abdullah Mohammed Ahmed. All five also deny violent disorder the night before the murder.

The murder weapons were found hours after the killing in a bin bag outside a house Khadar Mohammed used, the seven men and five women of the jury heard.

The metal pipe was stained with the dead boy's blood and hair, said Holroyde, and his blood was on the sword handle and baseball bat.

The prosecutor told the jury that when the defendants were arrested, the victim's blood was found on clothing belonging to the three brothers and Ahmed Kayse Ahmed.

The trial is scheduled to last six weeks."

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

Merry can: Us = Europeans

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Iam wondering where are the men who committed adultery with that lady...?????????

mlovesm, that is called child molestation, not adultery,adultery is not even a close crime to child molestation. and i think it is a very bad crime....

to them Of course, in any situation, there will be pro and cons and in this particular situation, mostly cons. My view is to each his own. In as much as some ruling in that african nation is unacceptable to others, some modern day rulings are also unaccepatable to others, that is why there is conflict and wars. Its good that some ruling does not lead to war but many are. Let us just give them the benefit of the doubt. Unless somebody from QL will go there in Somalia and tell these people pointblank in their face, "you are wrong".

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

why no one do anything about the men married to the 12years girl? I think he's commiting adultery. i like to throwing a stone at him....

adultery applies to both men or women and they both face same rulings as of sharia law.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

How come it's only a woman who gets stoned (or in Qatar recently, convicted)? Doesn't there have to be a man for her to have "adultery" with?

If a woman is an "adulterer" by herself, isn't that just called masturbation?

--

Since Allah has given me a brain, it would seem like a sin not to use it.

Some news reports say that she was dragged screaming and struggling to her place of execution. If this is so, then it casts some doubt on her willingness to undergo this stoning.

Mandi

By the way , its not confirm that the lady confessed to Al Shabaab its only clear that she admitted adultery but it maybe possible that al shabaab just arrested her and i hear news that the man also escaped to Kenya. so its mystery and above all its not the authority of this group to make such rulings anyway.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

That lady wished for the punishment knowing very well that she would die. Isn't it a form of suicide, and the suicide is forbidden in Islam. Later if some lady confesses the sin and seeks the punishment only to malign Islam and its laws. Will muslims go ahead with the punishment? I think there was no need for such act even on confession and the victim's wish. Islam says seek what you would seek for yourself. Such a law these days is obviously not acceptable to majority of muslims and Islam says in its traditions that 'majority of muslims do not agree on error' Hence as per majority's agreement such laws should be abolished..

religion is what it always comes back to."Much Ado about nothing"

Platao why do you hold that opinion that 'we ( I don't know who you mean by 'we') would still be living in misery' if the bible was followed strictly?

For a Muslim it IS a matter of belief...

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

Merry Can: Without intending to offend anyone in anyway, i'm stating an opinion for some i'm wrong for others i'm right, not a question of faith, if we would have stayed strict to the Bible, than we would still be living in misery, dieing young, our knowledge would be very limited.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Islam is in no need of new ideas. No one alive today is better than the Prophet Muhammad in the opinion of all Muslims. No one to live since him is better than him in fact according to ALL Muslims.

So how can improved ideas come from people that are inferior to the Prophet Muhammad?

Logically it is not possible or feasible.

Allaah says Islaam has been "perfected" and that way it will remain (in the eyes of Muslims of course!)

And Muslims will agree with and attempt to implement the sharee'ah of Allaah whether the disbelievers detest or otherwise....

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

Mayam: Thanks, i have been reading about Mohammed and Islam and i think that you are right, Mohammed set the punishment based on the costumes of his time but like all other religions, must update the message, after all God loves us all and will always forgive us

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Its not "Religious fanaticism", its "Religion misuse"..

Thanks Platao36 for your clear reasoning.

I think when Mohammad came with his message, Islam, he wanted to tackle down real problems of the people at that time. So, Islam can be taken as principles, but techniques and mechanisms of implementation can change as time changes. At least this is what i believe. I think we can open another thread regarding this issue.

Existence is a heavy burden, only high spirited ones can bear it. 

That is completely crazy, to kill others because of some obsolete religious dogma.

What happen to word Forgiveness?

Is it taught in the Koran?

Crap like this, just enforces me to criticize and hate all that Religious fanaticism.

“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

Mayamkhob: Fully agree with you, afterall times change and the way people see the world also changes as we all can see. :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Here are some people who approve the act prinicipally, but just show their discontent due to lack of complete Islamic governance or other similar issues. The real issue is even if there was a 100% islamci government at any place, these acts are and will remain rejected, heinous,and inhumane. I do again assert that Islam (Sharia) could digest new ideas and thoughts if we try to free it from the claws of dogmatic clergy.

Existence is a heavy burden, only high spirited ones can bear it. 

Even if she confessed to adultarey, this can be traced to her death in her society. How can she live in such an environment, where everybody will look at her daily as a cursed and sinner. I think she chose, if she really did, the short cut death on the long ongoing death. Some folks say this is not Shari'a. I think Shari'a is very elastic, it can be adopted in the Turkish style or the Shabab or Taliban way. Both can be said to be Shari'a, its again the Education matter and their comprehension of it. Anyhow, I think there is no harm if Muslim shcholars give fatwas to forbid these kinds of harsh implementations of Shari'a. I think these sorts of punishments, are irrelevant to our age. We have to focus on our real problems.It can't be justified.

Existence is a heavy burden, only high spirited ones can bear it. 

thanks for explaining in such a depth a merry can muslim.

but as i have witnessed amongst the somali people in doha they are all against such action to be implemented by al Shbabaab because they are just one of the insurgents in Somalia and have no right to make rulings without first implemented full sharia law and justice system in the country.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

double post

Alexa, it seems in this particular case that the woman confessed to her sin. If this is the situation then indeed no witnesses are needed as she is a witness against herself.

If the situation was that 2 men saw a man and a woman having intercourse then it is not enough for them to proclaim the act. They would actually need to go and get 2 more male witnesses.

The sharee'ah response should be based of the particular circumstances of each case. In this particular case if the woman did indeed confess and desire the punishment on this earth as opposed to the punishment on the day of judgement then... We applaud her imaan and hope she receives that which she wished for... ameeen.

(While condemning the act that led her to that situation.)

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

Wish I could give her an invisible crash helmet. Would'nt it scare them to death?

My mistake...:o)

Alexa i did mess with cat :) but still waitin for claws :)

If you read Merry's posting, you will discover that Islam actually makes it extremely difficult to prove adultery and thus administer the punishment..

The problem is that people abuse their power and mi represent the religion.

Sunset: Well, Inquisition would do it because it was their law, don't forget that it was created by a Pope, who's supposed to be God's representative on Earth, for catholique christians. But than we need to understand the mentality of folks on that period and today we still find folks thaton a different religion do similar stuff but instead of burning, they would take people to stadiums to be shot down because they broke the law, statues being destroyed because belonged to different religion, women wipped out in the streets if they would show a litle bite of skin, televisions and radios destroyed, etc....

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

But, what happened to the bloke? Was he married?mmmm

platao: here its not same, no burning, here its shar3 allah in islam if something like that happen, every time and its rules, god judge my internal which nobody can know anything about it, but on earth there r rules in every religion which guides ppl to work with it according there law, which they got its rules in this case in this country from Koran and shar3.my regards

Lol SN :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Witchcraft is perfectly acceptable BUT adultery......never! If that was my hubby she was sleeping with I'd be throwing every single stone!

sUNSET: Yes, you are right, in Europe, during the Inquisition times, if you were accused of whitchcraft you would be tortured and most times you "confess" your crime so that God could forgive you and than, you would be burnt on a fire to "purify" your body.

Realsome: Thanks for your last clarification.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Dirty slut, deserved every rock!.......

This was my point..

Some news say that she confessed.. Others say that she didn't.

sorry guys after i talked to more knowledgeable people online & offline it seems that Al Shabaab have not the authority to make such rulings. since they cant implement full justice system in the country and its wrong for them to be doing this type of rulings.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Its the deep inside believes about religion, its africa, passing same time Europe passed years ago, go back to history . my regards

good ending.

Some revelent ahadeeth from the collection of Abu Dawud...

Book 38, Number 4407:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

Ma'iz ibn Malik came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said that he had committed fornication and he (the Prophet) turned away from him. He repeated it many times, but he (the Prophet) turned away from him. He asked his people: Is he mad? They replied: There is no defect in him. He asked: Have you done it with her? He replied: Yes. so he ordered that he should be stoned to death. He was taken out and stoned to death, and he (the Prophet) did not pray over him.

Book 38, Number 4385:

Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:

Ibn Abbas said: A lunatic woman who had committed adultery was brought to Umar. He consulted the people and ordered that she should be stoned.

Ali ibn AbuTalib passed by and said: What is the matter with this (woman)? They said: This is a lunatic woman belonging to a certain family. She has committed adultery. Umar has given orders that she should be stoned.

He said: Take her back. He then came to him and said: Commander of the Faithful, do you not know that there are three people whose actions are not recorded: a lunatic till he is restored to reason, a sleeper till he awakes, and a boy till he reaches puberty?

He said: Yes. He then asked: Why is it that this woman is being stoned?

He said: There is nothing. He then said: Let her go. He (Umar) let her go and began to utter: Allah is most great.

Book 38, Number 4414:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

A man of the tribe of Aslam came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and testified four times against himself that he had had illicit intercourse with a woman, while all the time the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was turning away from him.

Then when he confessed a fifth time, he turned round and asked: Did you have intercourse with her? He replied: Yes. He asked: Have you done it so that your sexual organ penetrated hers? He replied: Yes. He asked: Have you done it like a collyrium stick when enclosed in its case and a rope in a well? He replied: Yes. He asked: Do you know what fornication is? He replied: Yes. I have done with her unlawfully what a man may lawfully do with his wife.

He then asked: What do you want from what you have said? He said: I want you to purify me. So he gave orders regarding him and he was stoned to death. Then the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) heard one of his companions saying to another: Look at this man whose fault was concealed by Allah but who would not leave the matter alone, so that he was stoned like a dog. He said nothing to them but walked on for a time till he came to the corpse of an ass with its legs in the air.

He asked: Where are so and so? They said: Here we are, Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him)! He said: Go down and eat some of this ass's corpse. They replied: Apostle of Allah! Who can eat any of this? He said: The dishonour you have just shown to your brother is more serious than eating some of it. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, he is now among the rivers of Paradise and plunging into them.

And from the sahih of Imam Muslim...

Book 017, Number 4207:

Imran b. Husain reported that a woman from Juhaina came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and she had become pregnant because of adultery. She said: Allah's Apostle, I have done something for which (prescribed punishment) must be imposed upon me, so impose that. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) called her master and said: Treat her well, and when she delivers bring her to me. He did accordingly. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about her and her clothes were tied around her and then he commanded and she was stoned to death. He then prayed over her (dead body). Thereupon Umar said to him: Allah's Apostle, you offer prayer for her, whereas she had committed adultery! Thereupon he said: She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divided among seventy men of Medina, it would be enough. Have you found any repentance better than this that she sacrificed her life for Allah, the Majestic?

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

he should have been punished,must have known she married

Religion has nothing to do here. Its been used here to cover the act.

Huh.. otherwise , look at that country's state now. It shows all.

This is just another reason why religion should be apart from social life, we all have our own beliefs, why don't we all use common sense?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

bunch of bastards using religion as an avenue to kill....

well said britexpat. its not islam - its the morons who pervert its meaning to suit their own ends.

Brit: I agree with you it has nothing to do with Islam, it's a question of lack of education and some folks tend to abuse on others, they say it's in name of God.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

stoning a person to death is horrible...

I will let you know later if i find info about the partner. take care everyone time to go offline.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Some say that she confessed and others say that she was led screaming and was tied before stoning.

Whichever it is, IMHO it was wrong.

From what little I have read, Adultery has to be proved with a number of witnesses coming forward. I also wonder what happened to the man..

Before you all go off on another anti-Islam binge, I belive that the culprit is not Islam, but the people who misuse the laws for their own benefit..

i was about to ask the same thing....

enana that is what i was wondering , this is serious and he should be facing the punishment too. its a mystery all the news i read doesnot mention the partner.

my understanding is that this women came voluntarily for this thing because an option for her to repent to Allah secretly is open for her.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

I don't agree with punishment and let me add, only God has the right to take someone's life, if she wanted to suicide she could have gotten a different way, these behaviors still happen due to low level of education, if it was a country with an highly educated, such events would never happen.

When we have nothing to live for it's easy to accept to be killed or kill in the name of God, who cares that God himself forbidden it?

Please note that i'm stating my personnal opinion and not bashing any religion, just savages

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

What happened with her partner, i mean the one that commited the crime with her???

well she could repent, and Allah accepts repentance. but i guess she choose this way.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Stoned to death for the 'offence' of adultery?

Looks like he'd cast the first stone to me, the way he's going on.

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So you would accept death by stoning without protest, is that correct?

Completely unacceptable. This is WRONG!

--------------------- N.O.W --------------------------

perhaps i could understand if they sent her to jail for life sentence or something.. but this? its too cruel!

cheers,

paul

well you will always expect from me to honestly present my opinion and my believe. and i wont hesitate that because of someone may see it barbaric or what ever.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

see now you;r starting to see the light realsome

lol no but i am afraid of them because they are too strict, and it sure they will take control of the country but they will sure hinder the development and that is what i am afraid.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

There can be no justification in any circumstances whatsover for legally sanctioned killings of this nature.

oh here goes another one...

u will never understand her, she choosed to be punished on earth,its our relgion.she choosed heaven INA, may god accept her. strong women.

why are you afraid? did you commit adultery too? well at least you,l accept the stoning death so dont be afraid..

Oh yeah.. we live in the 21st century guys.. huh

omarsk dont waste your time, realsom has no heart for sure. so sad

realsom,i feel sorry for your poor heart nothing else, if you accept this barbarism with all your heart

as i understand the way this topic flows, realsomeone doesn't approve the way of the punishment...what he was trying to convey here, how he admires the woman who was responsible enough to take the punishement for her actions(being adulteress)...

we r in computer age now, so sad that this barbaric punishment still exists...

in the eyes of God, we r nothing...who r we to judge others????

"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"

Yeah its barberic for you and guess what, I accept it with all my heart.

ringohiqups yes i know its very very strong way to kill someone like that. i never visited the place they kill people in mogadishu when the islamic courts where there, they used to kill the criminals in public and announce in radio in advance.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

realsome there are so many countries practising the sharia law in the world, why is it that only a handful stone people to death?????

"but as you know different cultures, religions have different ways."

Yes barberic cultures has barberic ways of punishments and susequent justifications.

Ban Spoon Feeding not Me

thanks for explaining...but it is still very wrong to kill someone that way mate no matter what you say,..

well this is the method of punishment of adultery in sharia law, whether you call it barbaric or not, its made to be an effective example for the people to avoid adultery.

i know some of you may find it unbelievable or unacceptable as I may find some actions of non-Muslims unbelievable or unacceptable. but as you know different cultures, religions have different ways.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

tallg glad you dont think this is right . any human being who thinks this is a right punishment should not be a human being.

omarsk - I also think it's the wrong way to punish someone and is a disgusting and barbaric act. That isn't what we were discussing though.

Killing a man by stoning is bad enough. To subject a woman to such a horrific and barbaric death is simply unbelievable.

tallg do you know that she could have been a bit mentally retarded, and did not know what she was doing or what was about to happen to her? anyways it is ur opinion,and mine is that this is a wrong way to punish someone.

I wasn't saying it wasn't true, I was just pointing out to charan that we can take any part of the story and say it that it might not be true.

maybe, i cannot judge.

But in my oppinion no none deserves such a way of die, who we are humans to judge her, and after kill her?

Who is free of sins????

tallg its true, the incident happened in Kismayo where the Al Shabaab group are the authority which is known to be strict in sharia law.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Omarsk i dont know much about this women's story i have read about her from other somali websites and they are writing just like this one.

such a ruling was not before implemented in Somalia during the Islamic courts union, so if she chose or not, i will choose to believe the Authority who did this punishment rather then an opinion from someone else.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

True, she may have been forced to accept it. Equally she may not have been stoned at all and the whole thing was made up. But based on the information presented to us in the original post she chose to receive the punishment she felt she deserved, despite being given the opportunity to change her mind.

"she was brave to accept the punishment she felt she deserved,"

She may have been forced to accept this.We all know how the barberian act on this kind of things

Ban Spoon Feeding not Me

realsom, i feel pity for you .. really if you think she really wanted to die by stoning by her own decision.

thanks for explaining.

ringohiqups calm down, if you mean rubbish about the punishment that is fine, i just thought you mean by me.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Ignore it realsomeone. I understand what you mean, even if I don't agree with the whole situation.

stone to death is not a polite punishment as well let alone the barberic justitification under whatever the barberic law :(

Ban Spoon Feeding not Me

what!!! are you going to stone me too for saying that word. oooo im shaking . im really scared. get a life mate. i say it again, it is RUBBISH.....

realsomeone means she was brave to accept the punishment she felt she deserved, even when given the option to change her mind and hence her punishment. In her eyes she had wronged and had to be punished accordingly.

Her braveness is irrelevant to what you think about the punishment itself or whether she deserved it.

rubish..that isnt a polite word.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Barberians .

Ban Spoon Feeding not Me

yea you think she chose to die herself,? give me a break.. rubbish..

I mean brave because of this from the article "She was asked several times to review her confession but she stressed that she wanted Sharia law and the deserved punishment to apply," said Sheikh Hayakallah.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

realsom,what do u mean a brave woman? are u out of your mind?

barbaric bastards... so disgusting...

indeed very brave women to have desired that. May Allah forgive her and rest her in peace.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi