The story of a swiss girl

Versi n Gypsy - I wont comment on the mass killing.. as do not know much about it..

But many good things happening......

Charity...

Help the poor n the needy... etc etc Also happen in the name of God...

A small candle or light lit up in the name of religion.... gives hope to a dieing man to survive,,,

Gives a defeated strength to try harder and win next time.....

Religion is power.... emotional power of a man...

The power is not bad.. it is the people...

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Plato - I am as fine as ever buddy... Thanks..

And neither do I ask....

Whichever way one feels connected... khallas... Job done...

The destination matters not the Path followed... :)

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Ashwin: Fine thanks buddy :)

And u? I'm a muslim but don't feal the need to explain why or why not i converted or not :)

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Plato - After a long time mate... how are you....

And you always live up to "my image of a Muslim....."

If tht helps you not getting converted elsewhere.. :)

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I'm a muslim and it confuses me all this fuss about changing religion. All i want is to be left out of these stupid stories regarding being another one who has changed.

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Versi - lol.... smart......

True.. its all about finding the light (as you say)... I say feeling connected to the supreme....

Conversion is not the solution for....

If I was never a religious person... where is the conversion when I choose to adopt another set of religious rituals and rules...

And if I am truly spiritual... i.e, feel connected with the supreme... tht is the very purpose of all religions.... appreciating the power and beauty of the supreme... why would somebody convert and where is the question of conversion as the purpose is already solved......

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and once you see the light, you become a better person

Just because you are not a good Hindu today, doesn't mean you cannot be a good Hindu tomorrow...

lord_90 - ???????/

posting at 3 : 55 ???? how was your weekend mate ??? lol...

Back to topic....

I honestly Don understand the conversion thing...

IF say I... If I CANNOT BE A GOOD HINDU... HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO BE A RELIGIOUS PERSON WHEN I CONVERT ?????

Person is still the same...

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i agree with u shyams...cultures about some countries r missing in the story and shud be mashed with only sh**t and wipe sh***ty ppl as well...

from my side i can donate with 100 sh*** since am always generous

hope from all members who miss the culture by origin and only have sh**t in their minds instead, to get out of the subject

oh gosh still alive this thread ? time to delete or hijack :P lol

ha ha ha ....

After reading your comment... I am glad you were late...

i guess I am late too.. BUT.. where is the Politics, Culture and Religion in it... and whats the moral of the story?? excuse me, but this piece of so called story SUCKS. whats the motto of this post, make that clear atleast.

my version.

Politics: The one this tread trying to make

Culture: Completely Lacks,except for the Swiss and Ali.

Religion: Yes there is a reference, but fails to make sense.

very funny....

:-(

Hmm.. Damn I m late coming here... this forum is hijacked before I reached... :)

Shaine - Nice story.. now happy :)

Arein - Ya man I agree with you the fellow wanted to read holy book in spite of having a Swiss Chick... Hatss off to him......

Khalid - If this was about preaching to be religious....

I really appreciate this effort...

Essence - it really does depend upon your mood and intensity tht what you see in the holy book....

But thing is.... Such attempts to preach a particular religion makes me feel about the religion.. the way I don wan to.... So pls..

If you read it... honestly it is not a soul touching story.....

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Hallelujah! She got a Qu'ran and converted to Islam.

For someone who gets converted so easily, it's good that she didn't get a book on cannibalism, lest she should covert to a cannibal!

.... thanks ...

and nice meeting you...

This is from one of the sites that you have referred to...

The term "German speaking Swiss" is not really correct, they actually speak Swiss-German ("Schweizerdeutsch"). Swiss-German is very different form the German spoken in Germany or Austria... bwahahahaaaa

please check this (are official sites):

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sz.html

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3431.htm

http://www.about.ch/culture/languages/words_n_phrases.html

I am out of the subject, feel free to comment without any reply. Like I said you are hopeless....

try this one...

look at the lady on the cover... she is Swisser than Swiss Cheese

http://www.maps2anywhere.com/Languages/Swiss_language_course.htm

touched my hart more than any pseudo-religious story....

Veri, if you take as good all crap on internet you will find a lot of unpleasant surprises. Check wikipedia or the governamental site of Switzerland/Schweiz. If a half-swiss man told you there is not such language, and one who worked and lived there for couple of years insist on the same, you are hopeless....

Try learning... to talk Swiss...

http://www.worldlanguage.com/Products/Talk-Now-Learn-Swiss-105845.htm

Try learning... to talk Swiss...

http://www.worldlanguage.com/Products/Talk-Now-Learn-Swiss-105845.htm

lol . Lots of stories :)

The Issue is NOT leaving the fellow beings to believe in what they want to.

STOP this preaching and advertising GOD and His books. there will be peace

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until now you proved more than ignorance: you are not able to understand the fact presented. If even one who is partly Swiss told you that there is no such thing, you should just have opinion about your lovely bengali.... Please, don't go into subject without any relevance for you. And try not to put tags on people: you can receive more s*hit back on your face

Care to give a proper link...

You know very well... that the story could be referring to Swiss German and I have established already that it is logically consistent... now stop harassing people with your ignorance...

your character is shown in your reactions......

I dont give a sh****t to any1

so no1 remember it

i just hate bigotry

Just check Switzerland facts on http://www.swissworld.org/en/

and I am not asking for a German/French/Italian dialect one. ....

And I am paying for my food every day. Have gave me a piece of bread and I forgot about it?????

Bigotry has never made the world better. And half scholars less....

mariamme...love u maan :)

first time i will say this in public...

---i was a religion teacher,

---a catholic religion teacher,

---spent 3 years in high school ;

---in a catholic school run by nuns,

---4 years studying and mastering the catholic doctrine,

---travelled abroad to meet other catholic volunteers,

---had been in a mission areas every summer for 5

years,

---applied to be a missionary in africa, (but was

declined due to my health situation)

--- converted muslims to christianity

but now im happy to proclaim that I am a MUSLIM! and dont have any regrets that i've been through with those things in the past before i learnd about ISLAM. coz i believe, its a preparation for me to understand well what ISLAM is.

--- a DIVINE INSPIRATION from God!

laurana

I prefer u to pay for ur food rather than paying for a swiss dictionary

Every true or fake believer said that he received the revelation from God/Alah/Buda/Yahve.. because God/Alah/etc want him to believe. That mean that, because I have not received the revelation of the true God, God/Alah/etc. does not want me to believe. So where is my mistake if He decided this. Do I have the power to work against His will and to start to believe??????

P.S. I consider one of the biggest dogmatic lie the story of Juda - he is still hated by every Christian because he was following the will of God.... Please believe in who or what you want but don't tell me I am stupid for not following the same path.

And yes, most of the historical murders were done in the name of the mercy full God.

everyone has a numen in his heart.Allah,Jesu,Buddha.

I don't need God/Allah to feel comfort/confidence or peace. I feel those just fine on my own.

... we believe on God/Allah not because God/Allah wants us to do, rather we want to believe for the sake of our own comfort/confidence/piece whatever you call it...

anyhow, i know your time is quite valuable, despiate, can't you give a try? its not a big deal ma'm, only a matter of half an hour !

:-)

I think people have posted lots of stuff by him before. Can't say I've ever read or seen anything that makes me believe in Islam or Christianity or any religion.

.... can i request you to watch any progrom of Dr. Jakir/Zakir Naik?

you can find him in peace tv i guess.... or youtube....

please, at least watch one sessino of him...

... still i hope, one day you will start believing.... but, whether you start believing or not, Allah has been, is and will always be with you... Amen

My stories are of people who were so strongely pursuing God that they forgot their humanity.

Huck. Yes I have. They're nice stories.

just curious and asking.. have you read bible/quran entirely?

i know one day you will believe... May Allah bless you ...

Your stories are sad reminders of what happens when people don't believe in the true God

A druggie after one toke...

A smoker afrter one puff

A fat food junkie after one Big Mac...

A porn junkie after one movie...

And on and on...

But Bles your God whoever you may worship...

I need to ask forgiveness now...

BRB

You can't teach experience...

Gipsy has a point.

Nobody kills in the name of a non-existent god like people too often do in the name of their perception of god!

How am I going to far? It's the same story, just different faiths.

Verisimilitude,

Once there as a man who believed very strongly in God. In order to prove it he killed over 3000 people in his name.

There was another man/men who ordered the deaths and torture of tens of thousands in the name of God. They thought God said that you couldn't spill blood so they used fire to burn and maim people.

Another man believed so strongly in his God that he killed MILLIONS.

I could go on.

you are going too far...... But unfortunately your fairy tale is true in essence... (and is not only about Islam...)

Once a man stopped believing in God

and then he had no moral compass

So he locked up his daughter in a dungeon under the house

and he abused her for several long years

and then had children with her...

bcos he thought... heck if there's no God watching

and if I don't get caught by any one else...

then what do I care...

Thank you for sharing such a nice story with us :D

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Once upon a time there was a Muslim girl and she went to school and she met an athiest and she ask him "What does athiest mean" and he said "It means I don't believe in God." She was shocked but as she spent more time with him and watched all the death and violence in the world caused by religion and realized that good people suffer and so do bad people and God never throws lightening bolts at anyone despite what her Imam says she realized he was right and declared herself and athiest to. Then her family killed her because Shariah law says you have to kill any Muslims that convert to another religion.

Withnail,

crisse, tabarouette , voyons donc, c'est l'enfer icit!

:)

I applaud your tolerance... thank you...

... liked it

Nice story, why knock it? Who are we to say what is wrong or right?

She made her decision let it be xxxxxxxxxx

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Man makes plans...............God smiles ;-)

I don't understand the fuss.. It's a "feel good" story posted by someone aimed at a certain cross section of QL..

Why take offence ?

I am a Christian, and Christianity also has its share of similar stories..It is an insult to our intelligence, spreading such stories indicates that you are belittling the intellect of your audience..

...Avada Kedavra..

Amazing...

this thread went in a completely different direction from what the original poster had intended

I just think that people should feel free to share stories/experience which they like or feel touched by...

There were many people who were touched by the story like snowhite, huckleberyfin, 000... so be it... they are QLers like everyone else

I don't understand why people have to belittle it... if you didn't like it, fine, skip to the next thread... no one's forcing you to read it...

Any recommendations?

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I agree with most of what you said...

its a dialect of German... fine agreed

It has its own grammar

It has words that are unique to it

So there can be a book written in Swiss German

that's all I am saying...

i would guess that yes, books can be written using this dialect, which according to dictionary.com is "a variety of a language that is distinguished from other varieties of the same language by features of phonology, grammar, and vocabulary, and by its use by a group of speakers who are set off from others geographically or socially."

i'm not here to argue this with you. you can believe what you want. the general consensus i have found online would suggest that swiss german is part of the german family, which is what the swiss people i know seem to believe as well. out of curiosity have you ever been to switzerland?

also, as a fluent french speaker i have never had a hard time understanding swiss french - in fact it's easier to understand than certain accents from france because the swiss don't speak as fast.

this is supposed to be a forum for people to exchange ideas. why don't you take a minute to breath and absorb what people are telling you. this isn't about winning or being stubborn, it's about sharing ideas.

have a good night.

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Swiss German = Bernese dialect

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jeez!!!

Can a book be written in Swiss German?

Yes or No

please see my previous post which contains the definition of a dialect.

my mother is swiss german. she would consider swiss german a dialect but i checked some sources online before making my previous post just to be sure.

http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa051898.htm

from most of what i have seen, it's a dialect, which means it's german.

since you're asking about swiss german and no longer mentioning swiss french, should i assume you realize that it is part of the same language as french?

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Man,

Swiss German is also a written language!!!

Look for: Jeremias Gotthelf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremias_Gotthelf

who used a mix of high german and Swissgerman in his books, or Rudolf von Tavel who wrote book after book in Bernese dialect more than hundred years ago.........

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Can a book be written in Swiss German?

Yes or No

you are on the internet yourself and advising people to read books... isn't that a bit contradictory?

your stubbornness to not comprehend the information that has been provided to you just shows you are biased... heavily biased

The founder of the website himself has put his nationality as Qatari and yet he is not... so I think there is no compulsion to state one's true nationality in the profile on QL...

the french & italian spoken in switzerland are very similar to those spoken in france and italy. the accent is different but that's pretty much it. i am from quebec and worked in germany speaking french with people from france and switzerland, and aside from accents and some words/expressions, it was quite similar.

swiss german is a different story but it is still considered an alemannic variety of German, which means it is a dialect of german.

see here for more detail:

(http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa051898.htm

the fact that germans might not understand swiss german is irrelevant. a lot of people in the US won't understand a person from glawgow - it doesn't mean that he isn't speaking english.

definition of dialect from dictionary.com: "a variety of a language that is distinguished from other varieties of the same language by features of phonology, grammar, and vocabulary, and by its use by a group of speakers who are set off from others geographically or socially."

key words in this definition are "varieties of SAME language".

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Nothing is more relaxing than flying like an Eagle in Heaven !!

man plz get urself a life :) touching story.

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Pa si Pusi!

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Hats off to the boy.. He was always reading the book even when he had a swiss babe around.. :)

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I repeat: just read a book instead of crawling on internet. If you don't have the basic culture you will not be able to discover the white or black on the information posted on web.

I am from the continent and I have lived in the area for couple of years. French is French no matter where is spoken: in Canada, in France, In Switzerland or in Wallis (you should know this if you are not hiding behind a fake nationality because you are ashamed of yours)

The same stays for German or Italian or Arab (is like the Egyptians are speaking Egyptian language and Qataris are speaking Qatari Languages). That's why I am laughing.

My last post here, feel free to comment, but better improve your culture first.

Pa si pusi (this is Romanian from Romania and not Romanian from Moldavia sic)

Its not in the main forum... its in P,C&R

omg such a kiddy act in main forum ....

If you think those smileys will get you off the hook... think again

I'd like to have those 1000QAR for each word in the Swiss German and Swiss French dictionaries...

:)) :)) :))

Oh. Good!

The Swiss German language has its own dialect... just admit that you made a mistake!

Its entirely different from the example of Sicilians and Napolitans that you've mentioned...

nxt story please..=D

Mitzzyy Mitz '09

This is such a sweet story. Thank you for sharing it.

Myself I find myself understanding the Qur'an more and more each time I read it. Its not that it is changing, but experiencing life has levels and so does knowledge and education. We all learn in life, but once we get older we start to understand different aspects of it and we accept it and live with it.

Mashallah! and ilhamdillah 3ala ni3mat il3agil.

By the way, Verisimil, you are a French, Wallisian or Futunan speaker ?...

I appreciate you have understand the meaning of "making a big fuss" for this story of the language. I am sure about your best intent for telling us that story, but I would be happy to hear about something real. I bet there are many extraordinary stories that we, non-Arabic people, will be delighted to hear. Even if there is nothing spectacular like a European girl falling in love with Islam because of her boyfriend.

As per verisim comments, please refer to offical languages of the country. In any place of the world there are differences between nearby cities, not to talk about regions of the same country. In Italy you will find out that the Sicilians does not understand the Napolitans and vice versa (this is called dialect not language), and we are talking about the same country. But they are speaking the same language i.e. Italian.

Tired of discussing on this subject,

Best regards

What you say is WRONG... there ARE differences... refer the attached link and the excerpts I have taken from it

Obviously you know not what you talk about...

This link is a story and that's all it is... why it bothers you... you should ask that to yourself...

http://www.eldrid.ch/swgerman.htm

"Did you learn that they speak German in Switzerland? That's a common misconception! In Switzerland they speak Swiss German, and that's something completely different. Swiss German has its own pronunciation, many different words, its own grammar, and most Germans have difficulty understanding this funny language. The German-speaking Swiss write standard German, that's true - there is no Swiss German official language (but still some literature, e-mails etc. using the dialect). The Swiss can also speak standard German very well, but to them it's a foreign language that they have to learn how to use when they start school."

Islam tells us to use our minds and brains correctly and warns those who burry their minds and brains.

We should follow the people when they do good things and not follow them when they do bad things.

us the story of Snow White and seven dwarfs but the Snow White was blond and the dwarfs were basketball players. That's why I said, come on, be serious and more than that, be informed!!

You try to invent or to sustain a nice religious story based on a totally inadequate premises. I have nothing against any religion but I really don't like anyone that pretend is the one who know the true and in fact he is just a half-scholar.

And no, there is no basic difference between Swiss German, Swiss French or Swiss Italian. Are the same languages with some regional modifications. There are languages, dialects and regionalisms. Swiss spoken languages are not even dialects.....

I agree it is OK to present anything as a nice story, even if it is a fiction, but why to accept a stupid fiction, when there are a lot of others at a better quality, that are not promoted because the world is filled with such low quality.

I can see how you've been making a big fuss about this Swiss language thing thereby indirectly questioning the authenticity of this story... all you've been doing is showing your ignorance...

Its true that there is no Swiss language per se but the French and German spoken in Switzerland is different from the one's spoken for instance in France or Germany...

Hence Swiss translation in this context refers to a translation which is either in Swiss German or Swiss French...

The authenticity of the story may still be in question given the lack of references but atleast not for the reason stated by you

you are more qualified than myself.... (in fact you are quit young, am I wrong??, only about 500years...)

Dutch is in Holland. You are confused by German = Deutsch. The third Swiss official language is Italian

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laurana..in fact i want to study ancient Swiss!

don't worry about payment...I'll pay with heavy gold.

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In switzerland there are three languages which are spoken and these are

1. French

2. German

3. Dutch

Be like a star which is on the surface of a river or a lake and in reality it is high in the sky and do not be a fertilizer fume which flies up and in reality it is down at the bottom.

If I am telling you that I know someone that have a Q'ran or Bible or whatever book you want translated in Canadian or Venezuelan language, will you believe me??????

some of the people on here are just born to chat rubbish especially this vermicel.

I think you all should just ignore this twat, he is just an attention seeker who has nothing better to do.

Anyways mashallah to the girl that reverted.

some of the people on here are just born to chat rubbish especially this vermicel.

I think you all should just ignore this twat, he is just an attention seeker who has nothing better to do.

Anyways mashallah to the girl that reverted.

some of the people on here are just born to chat rubbish especially this vermicel.

I think you all should just ignore this twat, he is just an attention seeker who has nothing better to do.

Anyways mashallah to the girl that reverted.

read a book instead of wasting time on internet!!!!

There is no such language. Switzerland is a country where the people (Swiss people) speaks one of the three official languages: German, French or Italian. There is no language called Swiss

Huckle: Aren't you forgetting Brazil and Angola? Japan is already an economic giant and mandarin is already the language spoken by more people in the world. India talks english as 2nd language :)

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

... right you are .... alurana should rather start learning hindi coz swiss are going to be history in few years in terms of economy...lol

Great!!! then I can surely teach him Indian language...

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

As I told you, I am the only one speaking swiss in the world. If you know anyone speaking swiss, I am going to pay you 1000QAR for each word in swiss dictionary

... rezy should learn, from economic's point of view, chinese/manadrin, japanese or indian language..... coz i few years, these would be super power more than france/germany/uk...

Laurana/Qatarkiwi: lol :)

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Why french rezy? I heard their economy is drowning like titanic....( am I hurting any frenchy here?) Why not German...just a thought...

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

... h for hundred years.... lol

have you gone mad... laurana, 20k/hour...

anyone to teach french... i m interested...

have you gone mad... laurana, 20k/hour...

anyone to teach french... i m interested...

My son read the Cat in the Hat by DR Seuss and started wearing a hat afterwards, is that the same thing?

RANI you should object upon shreeya's comments... not verisi's... who is the first to disturb the thread...shreeya is...

Anyone who is willing to learn swiss, can attend to my weekly lessons. Considering that I am the only ne who know this language, the fees are 20000QAR/hour.

You need 4 to 6 hours to learn the basics and up to 10 for being fluent.

contact me at [email protected]

Be serious guys, be informed before writing/posting

"Is that the way you went about with your religious mentors as well?

So that's the way you went about with your friends"

You asked so I asked....ahhh, and I thought we are just talking to each other...

True this P, C and R is none of my business...

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

you are the one who is trolling here ! buzz off buddy !

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..thanks man for this thread... thanks.... fiamanillah....

don't troll... such personal messages or threats should be sent by PM ;-)

Shreeya... is none of your business...

verisi u better change ur attitude towards qlers ... not good for health .. lol

You know exactly what I am saying...

Yarhamukullah ! :)

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Veris: Are you saying that Qur'an changes everytime you read it?

When you are loosing a debate you start insulting people, i wont decrease myself to your level by replying to your insult.

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

... allhumdulillah...

Ohh...why not? if he was a boyfriend....So, whom with do you went around?

Damn...this is posted in P, C and R and I thought something else...lol

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

reads the Quraan and understand it correctly then can pass a comment on this topic

So that's the way you went about with your friends!!

He was her religious mentor? I thought just friends....sharing everything....

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

I read each of your comments very attentively... but each time, I realize that you are more and more stupid... this is just the opposite of that...

Is that the way you went about with your religious mentors as well?

Guess her friend never pays much attention when reading Qur'an or he wouldn't find new things everytime he reads it.

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

She converted and they started sharing their thoughts. One day they shared something other than the thoughts....whats next?......

Everything's gonna be alright!!!

000..I become spechless after reading the sotry of that swiss girl...

Probably she has not read Bible in her life...

swiss translation?! O_o

y no cooments ?

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