US to Qatar: Frown on Iran or we will leave

I agree that the article may be a 100% lie..

Does this mean that US will not diplomatically force countries to do what the US govt. tell them to?

Is there anyone who still need to see proof and credited sources to prove to what extent the US is willing to go to protect its interest regardless of morals and international law?

Sorry the picture of the Emir and Iranian President reminds me of Laurel and Hardy..

np, QL is a "free country" :D

"The larger grows the island of my knowledge, the

longer stretch the shores of my ignorance."

William Blake

I was simply commenting on the rest of the argument the-prince, as stated I don't think the article is true and personally I don't think the US would make Qatar choose, it wouldn't be in their best interests or the best interests of Qatar.

Were're on the same page :)

"The larger grows the island of my knowledge, the

longer stretch the shores of my ignorance."

William Blake

What was said conflicts with the US stand, read and listen to what Obama says about Iran:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7954211.stm

I think the US would mostly ask Qatar to maintain their position of friend to both parties, and we would try to improve the US-Iran relations.

I agree that "The whole article reads like a tabloid scandal", but who said that Qatar HAS TO choose?

Blue:

You're a genius. Actually, one of my colleagues is one of your big fans. keep the good work

Dracula:

My friend, I'm one of your fans!

Tallg:

I used to be surprised at people who don't read between lines. Now I know that lots of them don't even read the lines. lol

Finally:

US in the Era of Obama is trying to befriend with everyone. So, why blame Qatar?

"The larger grows the island of my knowledge, the

longer stretch the shores of my ignorance."

William Blake

Nice joke UKEngQatar.. :)

Back to the Topic...

I agree with Gypsy that the reference of the article is nothing more than a Sleazy tabloid.

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You can't teach experience...

Sorry to hijack.. But can't resist telling a joke about Obama and Swine flu.

A conservative American once said that Pigs will fly when we have a Black President in the White House. On the 100th day of Obama being in the Office it was annouced that there are case of Swine Flu (Swine Flew).

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I would have put everything in Kuwait...

US usually leaves bases when they are almost completely built so Yeah it could happen...

They prob start building a new base somewhere else..

Kinda like how Qataris build something then tear it down n build it again...

You can't teach experience...

Interesting that only 2 people have picked up on source of the report (Iran quoting Israel) and questioned it's validity. The rest of us just waded in to same old "US are the scum of the World" debate.

I recall a quote by George Bush Senior, "We don't have foe's or friends, we only have interests". I guess this quote sums it up about American policy in the world and particularly in the Middleast.

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Ok I couldn't read everything. But does no one at all questions the valdity of this article?? if indeed:

"Washington has secretly warned Qatari Emir Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani that he would loose support of US troops based in the country, if Doha insists on getting close to Tehran officials, Debkafile reported, citing sources in the US and the Middle East. "

Emphasis on the SECRETLY. How did the "Debkafile" which I've never even heard of and is apprantely ISRAELI (a reliable source if I ever did hear of one :P )find out about it?

The whole article reads like a tabloid scandal, so frankly if you believe this I suggest you pick up the latest issue of Ahlan and read up on Brad Pitt's and Jennifer Annistons wild passionate weekend in New York (as reported by a "friend")

There is no way Qatar would pick Iran over the US and there is no way the US would ever threaten this. Qatar is an excellent ally in this region especially because of its relations with the other nations and the US is currently building the 2nd largest Army base in the world in the Northern part of this country. Also, you seem to forget that there's conflict over the North Field between Qatar and Iran with Iran trying to lay claims to part of it.

So when it comes to it what's Qatar going to choose, the US who brings in billions of $ to the economy and brings protection and safety OR the impoverished state of Iran who's threatening to take Qatar's means of survival.

Ummmmmmm.......:P

You do make a valid point..

As Muad'Dib said to the faithful "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."

Whether it is applicable to todays's society is debatable...

it will become a no-security equation. abortion business will boom and juice stalls will be out of the market due to the surplus in home-made milk-shakes

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PCG..

I am sorry. I should have done that!

I was trying to give you my answer though and did not think assurance did matter..

Anyway..i am not sure what you mean about the one who was not killed..but I am talking about this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

This is an article that states the historic fact that US threatened to use force when oil will be stopped:

http://www.time.com/time/subscriber/personoftheyear/archive/stories/1974.html

excerpt:

The U.S. would be forced to use its "military option," however, in the case of any clear and immediate danger that Saudi oil would fall into hostile hands.

sorry for the spelling mistakes. I know I am horrible.

also we will become the number 1 HIV exporting nation

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I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

guys..

if we stop oil and they stop thier stuff..we will both be affected...how hard is this to see! no need to iterate..

However, US identifies oil as a an ingredient of thier national security!!

By definition of this..US will do whatever is necessary to retain its national security...and because oil is a factor in national security US will invade countries which try to stop supplies to it. Whether legally or illegally.

why I asked the question. You saw it as attack, I was not attacking, just asking.

CBD, whos is Harry Kisinger???? Do you mean Kissenger that was not killed?

CBD, AS a mate I am telling you, read, google, check your response and then post.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

what if US and UK and ECC decide to stop supplying medicines, medical equipment, wheat and condoms?

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PCG..

If I give you my answer you may not believe me but it would not be very different..if different at all..than the answer king Faisal gave to an american official I believe (it might be harry kissinger)..he said to the king..what would you do without us? no US no oil out of ground..u don't have the expertise...no cars would run and so on..

King Faisal replied we have camels to transport and have our ground and animals wealth for food..

Guess what?

They played a key role in assasinating him!

deos this answer your question PCG?

thats a stupid question...

How about we put it the other way round...

what if the Middle East were to stop supplying oil to the UK and US... this 'who needs the other more' discussion is soooo silly and irrelevant

Again you pick the USA out and Scarlett. USA have a lot to answer for, as does the rest of the world.

Tell me something honestly now, if the West (mainly the USA and say the UK) decided to pull out of the Gulf, GCC or the Middle East. Forget the politics regarding wars/religion etc: that is another subject.

Do you think the Gulf, GCC or the Middle East would survive?

Do you think that they have the education and work ethic or logic to do this by themselves.

(Before anybody shouts RACISM)...THIS is a a genuine queation to find out what they want.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

Scarlett...

I need God to protect me not US army...If it is my time to die, I will die no matter how many US soldiers surround me..

If it is not my time, no matter who is trying to kill me!

I clearly stated..as America stands today (govt not the people) I prefer death than being protected by US Army which is directly controlled by US government..not mentioning the torture schemes implemented by US soldiers approved by high officials!

I agree with you that Arabic governments are scattered and contribute to the problem...

But US is the main cause ever since WWII..

Just read the newspaper and see how often american politicians interfere in our business..in Iraq..in egypt...in sudan...in Saudi...etc etc etc..acting like the police of the world..

trying to look noble but is a real devil..

oryx, of course The Philippines loves the US.....

after all they stayed for 92 years...

then United states military bases- Clark airfield, Subic naval base and camp Johnhay eventually eventually left in 1991 after the PHILIPPINE SENATE REJECTED to extend their stay...

***feed my ignorance***

US has might, influence and power. Qatar has strategic location and a crapload of natural resources. We both help each other for selfish reasons.

US isn't fond of Iran, for a wide variety of reasons (Islamic revolution when they held hundreds of our citizens hostage for over a year; their calling for the destruction of Israel, etc.).

I don't think Qatar is crazy in love with them (if you think the Sunni in the Gulf region aren't collectively scared sh*tless by the spreading influence and power of the Shia, you're smoking crack..), but they realize the benefit in making nice with them and the important role they play in the region.

The Israelis were terribly worried when Obama won the US election, that he would warm up to Iran a lot more than McCain ever would consider doing. It's an honest concern, because I think Obama WILL engage with them more than McCain ever would have.

But what the end result will be is anyone's guess...

Qatar and USA will work out a mutually agreeable solution if there is a rift between them, I have no doubt.

"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."

-- Maya Angelou

You are correct. The CAOC - Combined Aerospace Operations Center was shifted from the Prince Sultan Airbase to Qatar.

I beleive some troops have been redeployed, but AWACS still operate out of Saudi.

speed: By iranian source I meant the article is on an iranian website: www.presstv.ir

all: We invited the US to come and protect us, I know this as a fact.

p.s. Anybody who believes the charade about Saudi kicking out the Americans is somebody who believes the media. They still have bases and forces there, it's just a lower-profile operation.

Three countries love the USA

Phillipines

Kosovo (has bill clinton street)

Albania (has george bush street)

Only the cute female ones :)

So if the sh*t hit the fan and the US soldiers where in town...would you run to them to protect you?

I am like you and I think too that USA should stop being so palsy with Israel. As for any ideas how to tether them in....stop funding them for one. I am sure there are many other countries that fund them too so I am not saying all the blame lays at the USA feet.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

somebody should tell Obama that with regards to the Iranians...

you are changing your tune... you started off on a patronizing note and wishing the US wouldn't be helping out other countries dishing out bases... as if the base here was purely out of the generosity of heart of the Americans...

then on the same thread you talk about it being mutually beneficial...

there is a huge difference between doing something purely out of generosity and then doing something for one's own benefit or mutual benefit...

and you are trying to blur that boundary...

I am against evil also, just choose to do it in a much more subtle manner...usually has a greater effect...rather like throwing a stone into a pond...it starts small ripples and by the time it gets to the bank of the pond, its enormous, but quiet.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar....

I am not scared of God for he is a merciful and kind God. I will however, worship Him and praise His name.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

Some believe it is affiliated with the Israeli intelligence but others strngly beieve it is affiliated with the Iranian intelligence and Hizbulla.

In both cases, it is a site aimed at passing messages and sabotage. Just ignore it.

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always nice to have someone in your corner, but it goes both ways, not just one.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

I would...

So Qatar gets security and the USA gets presence in a key strategic area..

Both parties happy..

I am against all those who are Evils or has Evils intentions ... America, UK, Israel, Iran, Pakistan (Taliban), Iraq/ Afghan (AlQaida), Egypt etc...

I will always raise my voice against the Evils.

I am only scared of God not the Evils :-)

I am against all those who are Evils or has Evils intentions ... America, UK, Israel, Iran, Pakistan (Taliban), Iraq/ Afghan (AlQaida), Egypt etc...

I will always raise my voice against the Evils.

I am only scared of God not the Evils :-)

get so all fired up about something that is obviously misconstrued...on purpose.

CBD, you are such a joke, my dear...but seriously, i will be more than happy to let my friends in the military know to leave your and yours alone in the case of anything that might warrant their assistance. I seriously doubt that you are Qatari tho...I konw too many and altho they might have comments on the US, none of them have ever been so arrogant and adamant as you.

I never said the US hasn't done anything wrong, either past or present, BUT by at the same time, I AM saying that those countries that are now screaming that the US is the cause of all the world's problems, need to look at their own history and take some of the blame for their own actions. Most stories have 2 sides to them, not just one.

I am 100% against the war in Iraq as I believe we went into it with the wrong intentions. I do however support my troops because they are just doing what they are ordered to do as any military personnel does. If we wanted to attack a country that was threatening us with weapons of mass destruction, we should have attacked korea, who SAID they were going to attack us...

Popcorn, any suggestions as to HOW Obama can tether Israel in? I'd personally prefer to cut ties with them permanently.

verisimilitude - the base was invited to be built here and amid lots of negotiations finally arrived...and its to the mutual benefit of both the US and Qatar. Some folks know a bit more about things like that than others...I'll leave it at that.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

If you had a country like Saudi and all its ultra conservative people, breathing over your shoulder and a history of enemies within your own lands, wouldn't you want a bit of a back up on your property??

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

Qatar must have seen some benefit to the US presence here , otherwise they would not have allowed it to go ahead. Whether its "Hugely beneficial" is questionable and can only be answered by the powers that be..

Anyone who thinks the US just rocked-up and built an airbase in Qatar has no idea how these sort of things work. The US presence is HUGELY beneficial to Qatar.

Perhaps Qatar invited them, perhaps the US asked, but you can bet your life that Qatar are happy to have them here. That's why they spent so much money building the base in the first place.

with Facebook...

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

nice definition brit...

sums it all perfectly.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

I agree with Speed...its a war on the oil & gas resources ...

and in these times of recession can US really take that step to part ways with any country in this part of the world which provides them so much financial support by pegging dollar against home currency... i dont think so...

on the other side China has already started flexing its muscles to have more say in global affairs by throwing the idea of “super-sovereign reserve currency” at the expense of US dollar...

Only time will tell though how US and Qatar relationship continues or otherwise...

One Life to Live...Live It To The Fullest

Look back at history.. Politics is a dirty business, but interesting. Alliances are transitory and built on short term goals.

As Groucho Marx once said - " Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies.”

Who knows what the alliances will be ten years from now..

bubbly1975...Good analysis! I share that wish too!

britexpat.thanks for the hope..(you missed my statement saying America as it stands today- if they improve, then trust will build up and relationship will be healthier)

Obama gives nice speeches, which sound like from the heart..he might be sincere..let us wait and see..

At such a position, you cannot hide intentions and it shows (bad example already is boycotting Durban-2 but I will swallow it for the interest of remaining hope.

I hope he does stick to his agenda (Obama). I think it's about time though he tethered Israel in.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

is just jealous, she sees a rival wolf drooling for the candy she's licking. that's outright normal cmon' they will fix it.

CBD, US government being criminal eh!

The US has been here in Qatar for ages, and a "warming" relationship between Iran and Qatar surely won't make them pack and leave?? who knows what the objectives are for the closer ties...

i don't think, a threat (could call it that?) from washington is a very good idea at all though...

military tactics and the like from the new administration doesn't really work...those tactics was already overly employed by the last one...

the presence of US forces in Qatar clearly states that this country needs the other...and vice versa...for political reasons, military reasons, and others that you could mention...

it would have been so easy for His Highness to eradicate them if he really thinks that the US doesn't do them any good at all...

or maybe, he just keeps them for some sentimental reasons?

let's wait for what the Emir ha sto say about this news...

i wish for....world peace... (miss congeniality style)

***feed my ignorance***

are you kidding me?

americans 'invited' to open base in Qatar

LOL...

more like they got booted out of Saudi and needed somewhere to relocate to

you make it sound like the US is so generous to endow their base upon us all...

Yeah... fat chance...

As if anyone can just 'invite' the Americans to set up a base and they'll just... do it...

the Americans have their own vested interests... as they ALWAYS do

"I prefer death than being saved by the US army."

Rather sweeping. Let us hope you never have to make the choice :)

Your perceptions are correct.. The latest strategy from Isreal is to move the focus away from Hamas and continue to demonize Iran on the world stage.

Whatever the reasons, both Qatar and the USA will do what they feel is right for their long term interests. this is as it should be.

Let us hope that in the long run, all the players can see common sense and come together for the overall benefit of the region. Asking too much perhaps, but I do have more faith in Obama than Bush..

mp5050..

It is a pitty to have lost over 4000 American soldiers who are brave and sincere based on lies that were prepared before hand...

All of this loss and affected countries' losses is because of US government..

Dead Americans & Iraqis in this case, could have been enjoying thier weekends with thier families.

Guilt & greed had another agenda and it does not matter who dies.

All that is necessary for Evil to rise is for good men to do nothing.

look i woodav prefered to be jap or speaking their languare awright...and those landcruiser wudav been from us both...if not for your country...try to take a look at all them counties (closely) the US had ran over, remnants, entrails, are left to them- look at zubic- ya they're momentarily gone awrite, but they left their toxic radiation and other form of filth behind, moral filth too.

I am not totally againts them really, i am plainly saying a few of what i know about them. neither do i hate them. it's the reality of the survival of the fittest, and we all exercise our own ways to get through-wether it be deceptive or not...i admire them actually, they are clever.

i dont think it would hurt the US to accept Iran as a friend of a friend. Of course there are extrnal motives but that's life whether you are a govt or just a person. Iran and the US have made half hearted attempts to cooperate on common intrest (there are more than you would think) but both are stubborn. Who knows, this relationship could ease both sides into some levle of respect/comfort...hard to put what I am trying to say to words but I basically, I dont think it would hurt.

Also in regard to the US being good vs evil. Many Americans lay thier lives down for the 'idea' that they are upholding such things as freedom and liberty. The sadest part of this to me is that they dont evaluate and in many cases, dont care to question whether or not the actions they are taking to do so are 'right.' I dont know a good way to take the blinders off the American people but losing a friend in the region is certinly not it.

Mitch

PCG..

Maybe...I believe he is doing the right thing given the different variables that shape the equation of the current political situation.

Perhaps that is why the Emir is trying to build bridges with Iran. That is if what we read is the truth.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

the Iranian sources in the article?

I am sorry if I hijacked the thread..i was replying to earlier points directed to me.

I am not saying that US is not helping too but thier damage way excceds thier help.

Now they are helping the Iraqi people are they not? but they invaded it and destroyed it and stolen its wealth and killed its people etc etc..

If you listen to US government now, they say: we will not leave Iraq in chaos, we need to ensure stability first. what kind of help is this?

this is helL not helP.

I do think USA has a lot to answer for. Please don't turn this thread into a USA knocking. They also help a lot too.

This is about should the Qatari leader be friendly with Iran. I think he should be and if America does not like that well that is tough. They MAY have a hidden agenda (most goverments) have but that does not mean to say the Emir is not wise enough to know he can forge a friendship with Iran and actually keep USA as an ally at arms lengh.

This may be the thing the USA needs, somebody actually saying, 'thanks we will take it from here'.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

Scarlett..

USA trained Osama Bin Laden..

USA supplied weapons to Iraq during IRAN/IRAQ war..

USA Invaded Vietnam...

USA used the one and only nuclear weapons against civilians..

USA took, by force, Mexican land..

USA tried to assasinate Fidel Castro 600 times because he opposed thier policies..

I am not surprised that all intrusion of US in other nations's businesses is viewed by as a help to others!!

you have been fed with spoon and shaped as the US government wanted!!

There is not doubt about US government being criminal.

Did anybody actually read the article?

It's from an Iranian Source saying "The Obama administration has expressed discontent ..." it also says that the source "which is believed to be affiliated with Israeli intelligence"...

It's either:

Iran worried about the base in Qatar.

or

Israel worried about the Qatar-Iran relations.

It seems that this has nothing to do with the US, I'm sure that Obama was reading this in one of his daily reports and screaming WTF!?!?

tell USA to remove it's military, we don't need you !!

We should not forget that USA is no ones friend... Saddam was once Fav man of USA, Taliban was once Fav Islamic guerrila group, even USA provided stinger missiles to Taliban to fight with USSR forces... Why did USA supported Taliban over USSR war ?

It's a war over Oil and Gas resources in Centeral Asia !

hey dracula, you keep posting good photos. hahaha. kudos dude! i like that graph.

I know this. I was talking about other matters :-)

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

Like you, I wish my country would stay home and quit helping others...but they don't. Qatar INVITED us to build a military base here...rather like Kuwait who asked for our help in their war.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

Interesting mindset from someone whose country would be speaking JAPANESE if the American's hadn't decided to help your country during WWII. See my signature below if you can't understand what I meant...

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

I'll pass that on to the US military that you don't want to be helped in case of attack..I'm sure they would be more than happy just to let you get what you deserve..

Don't bet on the US not pulling out if things are notmutually beneficial to them. No one gives the US credit for any of the GOOD they do...its much easier for these countries to point fingers and say it was THEIR fault instead of taking blame for their own actions.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

To try and make friends with people in this area. The problems will be never sorted until they take on the responsibilty of sorting them out for themselves. They know their neighbours better than anybody. I do wish the UK and the USA would not butt in as much as they do. Have they not got enough problems of their own to sort out?

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!

in my opinion, the emir is just making friendly show face to the iranian president because according to study, it's a big theory that iran's gas is slowly seeping down south into qatar's territory. better that we make friends with the persians now so they don't blow us up when they run out of gas and realize we all have them. :P

could further explain please?

cbd - That comment says more about you than all the many words you've previously written on QL

freedom,liberty was never there in the first place.those words were meant for their tax payers who rely on paers/TV to watch politicians telling them what's good for them.

They even make war sound 'civil".

anyway lets stick to tallgs topic we never finish if we get to the bottom of this.

As America stands today..

I prefer death than being saved by the US army.

you would like to have Russian, or Egyptian, or Turkish,French or Chinese military stationed in Qatar to protect it from the wolves of this world.

Now that is a scary thought!! :)

US is playing a dirty game though. they know they are required and try to take advantage.

I don't think US would pull out even if qatar ignored the warning.

At this time, nationes who don't agree with US are growing (Iran, Syria for eg.)

Conditions escalate daily. War is immenint i believe.

China is also trying to get involved in ME's business (in sudan).

All these conditions will cause the US to hold into thier bases should something happen.

I am sure, as britexpat, that a compromise will be reached.

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USA will pack up and leave???

hahahahahahahahaha

good one!

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You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in!

cba - I don't think you realise what a strategic bonus it is having the US based in Qatar. Qatar has invited the US into 'it's business'.

cbd - This sort of thing happens all over the world with many different strategic alliances between countries. It certainly isn't something specific to the way the US does things. And there's absolutely no suggestion of war or sanctions.

tepatter..

If you examine American history...civil wars and everything that leads to how the US constitution was made..you will be amazed and filled with respect to such an example...it stands for liberity, freedom of speech, supporting peace and the rest of the fascinating words.

However, they don't implement it nowadays...they may refer to it..but actual actions are far off..

they invaded Iraq based on lies, they torture people, they spy on american people themselves and the list goes on and on and on.

all about then? tell me.

Mr.President mind your business and do not stick your nose every where.

We have the right to have a good or bad relation with any body.

Is it clear?

Nice point britexpat..

I don't think the US will let go easily of important military bases strategically located.

Not as black and white as suggested. All countries take steps to protect their interests. Qatar allowed the US to base its troops here knowing that it would also offer protection in the long run. The USA will not just pack up and leave because Qatar is in a strategic position, especially with respect to Iran.

The Gulf countries also realise that Iran is a major player in the region and they need to keep cordial links with it.

I am sure both sides will find a suitable compromise.

Teepatter...

they are getting thier right share through pure business partnership..

what justifies the extra bit? the big big extra bit?

justifies it guilt and greed which is not what America is all about.

for long that the US is scared of what they do not know or do not monitor, they are making sure they have eyes/control on everything.

and curius brush it off! they gave you an idea what to do with oil. they want a piece of anything.

what would you expect..it is 'if you are not with us, you are against us' policy.

US government has been the source of instability wherever it went. Either nation's agree to its instructions or it is war and sanctions!

why the heck would the US government be beothered? we are peaceful and communicative and now they are trying to cut this out. where is freedom here?

Is it because Iran is a threat to world's peace? is it because Iran is close to ceveloping a nuclear bobm?

Well, Israel has nuclear bombs already. Not only that, but is the baby of the US government. they made it, support it, defend it, fund it and they made Israel nuclear.

They never talk about that!

what an evil entity.

In time of trouble, you will look up to big brother for protection, and who else can give you that. Thats the wisdom in it. As for the US & Iran, Its like mixing Gabriel & Lucifer.

Again US Culture!..Bully!

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Life is short...300 meter before roundabout!

not good from either side..

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-