US, UK & France Vs Iran - Nuclear threat
President Obama and the leaders of France and Britain blasted Iran's construction of a previously unacknowledged uranium enrichment facility and demanded Friday that Tehran immediately fulfill its obligations under international law or risk the imposition of harsh new sanctions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/25/AR200909...
The vedio is available at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHSmad__rnE
US & UK established the so called Israel state.
Israel has nuclear bombs and all nations know it. (I believe it was built by a French technology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu
Why do the Western governments keep quiet about Israel's nuclear capabilities???!!!
Should not Israel be dealt with exactly the same way as Iran?
Given this hypocrisy, it would probably be better if Iran develops nuclear bombs so as to balance the Israeli bombs providing more stability to the region.
Israel is a real threat to our region being the only nuclear owner.
A mentally challenged with a Gun will be much more dangerous than a child..Jackfrost
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Sure
JF-TSH, Yes you should'nt give guns to children and that goes doubly for not giving guns to morons.
CBD ill read and respond to you later
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
dont give guns to children, only grown ups play with guns.
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
Can Anyone tell me from wher Iran got the Nuclear technolgy?
they havent developed it I guess.
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You are also requested if judegement starts while you have a seed in your hand,to implant it!
point is you should do work!
the problem with something like new world order is to stay out of it...you cannot stay out of it unless you resist it...this is not like a something you can choose to deal with or ignore!!
Dali,
I like your suggestion but i don't like limiting myself. I think I know objective of your sigature you added.
If you think about it, war on Iran and danger US/Israel possess on our region, as well as other regions round the globe, is only a single symptom of the new world order and capitalism selfish evil dreams.
I would suggest starting a group here in QL and call it something which captures capitalism, exploitation, human rights, peace and all of that. I am not sure what it can be called but this should not stop us.
i have been thinking to start a group in QL and nothing is better than supporting international Peace for all nations regardless of faith and race. Thank you for igniting my thoughts!
Now, what would be a good name? Suggestions please!
A video that's weird! &feature=related
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
IGNORE JACKFROST
"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."
&feature=related
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
IGNORE JACKFROST
"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."
OMG! It works! I did know that he's in the 33rd rank at the Masonry, which is the highest echelon; it's here onwards that they begin worshipping Satan and a multitude of GODS! But, this is good evidence!
Oh, and all American Presidents except JFK and Lincoln were in the 33rd rank.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
IGNORE JACKFROST
"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."
Thanks for the referance Maimoona. it's definetly worth the read..No coincedence that JFK was about to dissolve the Federal reserve.
It was a message to all whom have not become their puppets. The rest are simply lured in for greed and power.
Remember 'yes we can'? Have a look at this
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Dali, the book details a lot of masonic events around the world, like the assassination of Zia-ul Haq, which was left univestigated, though a couple of American Generals died as well. And it has a lot about their various masonic lodges, and that every American president was (and is) a masonist except JFK and Lincoln, who were assassinated as a part of a ritual "king-killing". And because Ostwald was shot, there was no further investigation into who may have assigned the killing of JFK. Plus, how masonists are invading all other countries: They hired charming ladies, gave them muslim names and got them to seduce Turkish princes. Saddam Hussain had shut down every Masonic activity in his country legalising capital punishment for anyone connected to masonists or masonic activity. Right after he was overthrown, masonic activity resumed in the US bases in Iraq. And much more!
It's unfair that six powerful countries get to decide the fate of the rest of the world. From past records, it's more likely that Israel and the US (think agent orange and atomic bombs) is more of a threat than third-world countries.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
IGNORE JACKFROST
"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."
Mandi...If everyone decides to play fair with no favoritism or exemption from laws, in an ideal world then yes everyone would agree to it and we would live in a safe place but if a couple don't play fair then it's pointless.
Iran has a right to defend it's self even moreso after Iraq. It would be a huge mistake for us to disarm Iran, who has shown no agression, unike Israel or ourselves. If they had no protection it would act as a magnet for the greedy politicians to strike them under false claims again. Just look what it's cost us already. The movers and shakers on the other hand have everything to gain, we the people loose along with the rest of humanity.
But allowing them to keep their arms would be the only check mate situation that would ensure some type of peace. We the people have the right to influence descisions.
Time to demand the passage of HR 1207 S 604, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Every Master need a dog :D
I'm very happy to support a stand against any war on Iran as long as Iran agrees to the same. You do realize that one of the big issues the US has is protecting their bases in the Gulf - one of which is just outside Doha!
Mandi
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
Maimoona, CBD and all of whom do NOT support Israel having Nuclear wepons.
You know what campaign we should start? A complete stand against War on Iran.
I'm adding this as my signature
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO DOES IRAN.
Who ever agrees please add this to show solidarity
Maimoona Thank you. Whats the book about and hows the connection with the Dajjal?
it was Europe, where holocaust happened, not the Muslim world.
Just dream!
Israel is very strong in the air as well as on the ground.
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
Don't worry Drac & Jack, Israel is not smart enough :)
More than 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters participated in the maneuvers, which were carried out over the eastern Mediterranean and over Greece during the first week of June, American officials said.
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
Hypocrisy has become so obvious now, yet nobody's doing a thing! Iran should have every right to develop nuclear energy, which the US and other powers are now equivocating as nuclear weapons.
And Dali, I totally agree with your post which the MOD so wrongfully deleted. The freemasons exist; it's not a theory the muslims came up with. And I did see your video before it was deleted. Try reading "Freemasons and Dajjal" by Kamran Rad- very insightful
IF YOU ARE SANE, IGNORE JACKFROST, AND JOIN THE CAMPAIGN
"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."
More than 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters participated in the maneuvers, which were carried out over the eastern Mediterranean and over Greece during the first week of June, American officials said.
The exercise also included Israeli helicopters that could be used to rescue downed pilots. The helicopters and refueling tankers flew more than 900 miles, which is about the same distance between Israel and Iran's uranium enrichment plant at Natanz, American officials said.
Israeli officials declined to discuss the details of the exercise. A spokesman for the Israeli military would say only that the country's air force "regularly trains for various missions in order to confront and meet the challenges posed by the threats facing Israel."
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/a-list/2008-June/071703.html
edifis,
don't you value your time wasting it trying to be funny? grow up will you!
Yes, may be he will install air purifier everywhere!
And spray lots of room freshner too.
obama can bring fresh air
DotCom, the answer to all your questions is "Israel". If you ever be the Quiz master in a Quiz contest I will surely be a participant!
Who are they to order the whole world to stop? and this days who care them, and ask them to solve their own Financial problem first, think western people from will find money to eat first.
Kallas no world police anymore, they are became a poor...
US is just a doll and their remote is with Israel, and UN also the same doll remote with US. all of this is funny,,,,,
Until do not take out Israel from the peaceful world this problems will not solved.
I am with you PM, Let those who havent committed any sin throw the stones.
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exiledsaint...Voice or reason again :) You're asking an Isreali to surrender land? They want more! But I really commend you for saying the truth...This is what the world has come to, one must be thankfull when others speak the truth, as the truth nowadays is the rarest commodoty one can gain.
I was actually enjoying the idea and prospects of having them under one israel/palestinian state and seeing the Palestinians with human rights and the right to vote.
Now that would be a democricy worth watching.
Goodbye QL. I'm gone, see other thread. Had enough.
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/710240
Its no doubt that the biggest state terrorists are Israelis and a part is owned by US and UK who allowed to form a terrorist state.If people like Jackfrost is no not enough to show the world that the are innocent .World is not going to end with this...
Israel will not bow to terrorist; Israel is a powerful educated and wealthy nation who have held back terrorist and will continue to do so… I fully supprt them against teh coward Hamas terrorist
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
definitely double standards at play.. I listened to most of Obama's speech. He harped on about the U.N resolutions but forgot that there are numerous which get conveniantly forgotten..
Israel no need to surrender the land, but come out from the occupied land at least 50%. Thats enough for peace. Somebody here trying to convince others that Israel is not an occupier bur going to do some favor for peace, but it is not. They occupied another country and holding with Power and support of Americans and UK who are the biggest occupiers in the world history..
Sorry Jackfrost but Israel broke more UN resolutions that Iraq under Saddam. Face it Jack Israel will have to surrender some land for peace.
Sorry just replying to curious with his wiki link on how Israel accuquired their nuclear material
The UN is to be dissolved as it is represented by its security council dominated by most terrifying countries like US, OK, France etc.
Whoever the president Americans are Americans..They are terrifying the whole world. Now they want to come out from the largest economic debt and want to sell more weapons and want to come out from the recession.
As long as Americans dominating the Un and such international organizations we have to live in fear and in the middle of terror..
Israel ,,fulfill its obligations under international law.. not hard to see that one... Iran NO
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
But still why would they delete it? I have done a search on 9/11 and freemasons on QL alot of threads come up, I don't see whats so provocative in the title
9/11 New World Order MUST SEE , to warrent a deletion.
CDB, great i'm looking forward to it and your opinion is highly appreciated
Dali,
I will do that soon. I have to reference you because i have a different opinion about this claim- i will present it along with the thread.
MODs surely have a criteria and do delete some threads. I don't think urs was one of them.
exiledsaint, who got help and who regrets what?
CBD...Did the Mods explain something about my thread? I must have missed it? Was something wrong with the title?
And Thanks! Absolutely go for it and you post it.
With or without assosiated intellegence lol but this current twist does make you think why the Mods here would care about what one sees in folded dollar bills?
Maybe they don't like seeing ppl playing with money, especially US currency, it appears to be holy lol.
Please let me know when you've posted it, I can't wait :)
Oh I see. Seems very clear where they got the help from.... bet they are regretting that decision now.
Dali, try posting your thread again and slighlt change the title. Given the explanation earlier, i don't think it would be deleted by MODs!
If this does not work, i can do it for you! Don't worry, i will reference your name to ensure you take credit for associated intelligence lol
truthfulvisitor,
when i say western i am referring to governments particularly US, UK & France who played and continue to play a key role in all issues related to Muslim-Israeli conflict! They are just guilty together! don't blame us for grouping them because it is just a fact. But hey, you are sick anyway!
Dali,
I was responsding to MD's question though i am peaceful. I hope no more wars.
sandeepkadian, thanks for your reply :)
Actually it's not deleted it's still here http://www.qatarliving.com/node/718633
But why doesn't it appear in the forum I posted it in?
It's about the folding of the New Federal reserve dollar bill and the step by step image of the twin towers going down, heres the direct link
lol now this is really freaky, I tried opening the youtube link and the video is no longer there
Truthfulvisitor, are you serious?
Ranting against Israel?? So in your mind Israel is innocent and the blood of the new holocaust Palestinian victims worthless?
And the rude fact that UN does NOT repremand Israel giving it immunity seem fair to you?
It's not a never ending song, it's a blood curdling wail of the victims and quite frankly adopting non-chalant attitudes towards this screaming fact is wrong.
It is precisely this kind of ranting against Israel, the constant moaning and provocation that just gets on my nerves so much.
Why is everything the fault of someone else? Why must these 'westerns' be demonised as one huge homogenous group?
It is just a never-ending song on repeat and I'm sick of hearing it!
It was deleted by the mods Dali.
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
Why is everyone discussing who would survive what, why should War be an option, why not peace?
And why doesnt my recently posted topic show?? :(
DotCom...I hear you and I agree with you, I think you can obviously read from my posts what I feel about Israel.
However shouldn't we be pragmatic here and look for a 'civilized' solution?
One that the many 'civilized organizations' cater to.
Wouldn't having Palestine and Israel as one state be a solution? After all the Jews and Muslims have always lived side by side for centuries before the elitist government came into play.
The Israeli's would be forced to give the Palestinias human rights.
be Remember that the Palestinians would be allowed to vote, and that from all the Muslim world that are currently suffering a 40% illiteracy, that the Palestinians REGARDLESS of their plight are 100% litterate.
Maybe being one state isnt a bad idea when you think of it in a pragmatic way.
MD,
Arab countries are the worst you could ever think of in terms of power.
But strategically speaking, limited israeili land against the widespread muslim land gives you how weak israel is. They will run out of resources for sure! So yes, Muslim countries against Israel alone will not last long!
Unless Western powers back Israel, Israel in its own cannot survive for a day or two!!
so really Israel is dependent on the support of international evils. All the armies and proud soldiers thinking they are defending thier countries are subject to die for Israel whether they know it or not. They are not really defending thier land or thier nations.
American presidents know that american soldiers dieing in Iraq do not have to be there and they even know soldiers are not fighting for a good noble cause (unless they define it to be the interest and profit of thier corporations owned by war criminals). I know most soldiers are sincerely fighting for a good cause but they are decieved. around 4000+ american soldiers died in Iraq for which is now known as lies!!!
Should not those soldiers have been at home enjoying life with thier families?! let alone 1 million Iraqis and other soldiers!
CBD, and you think that the Arab countries can survive a day or two if they are not backed by foreign powers? I doubt it.
Dali,
Thanks for your note! don't worry about the hijack it is for good reasons anyway!
regarding truthful last statement saying we can't do anything about it- i agree with you that it reflects his position. He should be arguing why!! Not to merely state and tease people by saying you cannot. Guess what, Israel is in a weak position and it is not as big as some people are taught. If war erupts, Israel will be severly damaged with limited land and easy targeting!!
The 33 days war between Hizb Allah and Israel gives a measure of how weak Israeilis Are!!
Truthfuladvisor, In all honesty I read then reread your post to glean some sembleance of reason, esp since I have enjoyed reading your well structured previous inputs here in QL.
What happened?
What qualifies Iran as a rougue Middle Eastern extreemist and not Israel?
Many Westerns are now washing their hands and admitting Israels terrorism of the Palestinians, it just shocks me that there are still some die hard supporters of a country that practices genocide, one that since 1964 has been basking in the UN's immunity.
Then we have America unjust war on Iraq, and we still get away with calling the Middle East 'rouges'?
It's simply unfathomable.
Finally you say "And that's just 'balance of power' on Planet Earth goes, CBD. And you know what is so pleasing about the whole thing, there's not a DAMNED THING you or anyone else can do about that!"
FOr a minute there I would have sworn you sounded like a Freemason...New World Order?
To all....I posted this topic
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/718633
A huge eye opener. I'm a new user and i'm still getting the hang of QL, but can someone tell me why you can't find it in the forum, and since I have already commented on it , shouldnt it be in my 'track' record, because it isn't, only my comments in other ppls threads are listed.
Yesterday I couldn't even search for it.
Is it being censored? Why would it be it's not contraversy.
In fact its all over youtube and many may have seen it before, I just wanted to hear opinions about it.
It shows you the new money printed in 1996 by the federal reserve , shockingly when you folded the notes , $5 $20 $50 $100 depict accurate images of 9/11 ...You can even try it on these notes yourself!
Sorry to hijack your thread CBD, but I think we're speaking about the same topic.
exiledsaint,
a brief history on how Israel became nuclear!! check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#Rupture_with_France
Let's face it, metrocity: The GDP of the US is 14.290 billion US $, that of Iran is 842 billion US $. So, who is poor?
MD Its only a claim they have nuke power, they do not have money even for medicine and all, baba bush make US very poor , because of the unnecessary war in Iraq and Afghanistan. if US have more nukes than Iran they have to stop first, then ask other country to do .
No one will care this poor western countries now.
Im going to take an extended leave of absence come Dec. Get as faaaaarrr away from here as possible.
--------Do I look like Bambi's sister???-------
Well metrocity if you do not care about non-proliferation then don't come crying to us when some Indian city is destroyed by a pakistani terrorist organisation that managed to get hold of nuclear material through pakistan's own nuclear programme...
look on the positive side, at least you will get to meet your God sooner along with thousands of others...
As long as the US have more nukes than Iran they can talk like that.
Who are they to order the whole world to stop? and this days who care them, and ask them to solve their own Financial problem first, think western people from will find money to eat first.
Kallas no world police anymore, they are became a poor...
US is just a doll and their remote is with Israel, and UN also the same doll remote with US. all of this is funny,,,,,
Wasn't it a rouge pakistani scientist that sold nuclear secrets to israel?
truthfulvisitor,
US, UK & France equiped Israel with nuclear reactors!! they know the legitimacy and reasons of its existence and had to protect it. Given the weak argument, it had to be supported by a strong arm- that is military nuclear reactors.
Why doesn't the US give Japan the same reactors as they are subject to N. Korea bombs too! you see!
Western powers are not just lacking sincerety, they are criminals and follow thier interest. Thank God for Internet and improved communication technology. They cannot fool us or propagandise us anymore.
You have to admit also that US started the whiole thing up. Any nuclear threat today is a result of US policies.
US must accept its responsibility in starting the nuclear problems and take first big steps not accuse other nations of instability while they themselves have been guilty for sooooo many innocent lives. At least they should keep thier mouth shut if they won't be consistent with all countries developing nuclear weapons.
you are not a truthfulvisitor I am afraid. You are either decieved as many other or a liar.
anyway I don't think however the Israeli state was created and wish version you believe really matters now. What matters is what happens now? Carry on fighting each other for eternity or come up with a solution for all.
not the myth about the balfour declaration again. Have you read it? It expresses sympathy for the jewish cause it does not promise them a jewish state anywhere!
Israel is on the fault line of radical Islam in the Middle East and needs this technology to protect itself from rogues all around it, such as Iran.
Of course the world powers will not disable Israel; if anything they will further strengthen it.
Obama may have been full of apologies and bowing, literally, before the King of Saudi Arabia, but the tide is turning in his country. It is also noted that his policy of grovelling apologies to terrorists has not reduced threats to the Western world; ironically they have actually increased.
Appeasement of these fascists was never going to work anyway, but no harm giving it one last go I suppose.
Oh and the recession is over, by the way, so you missed the gloating on that one by about 6 months.
And that's just 'balance of power' on Planet Earth goes, CBD. And you know what is so pleasing about the whole thing, there's not a DAMNED THING you or anyone else can do about that!
So really - it sucks to be you!
it is unfotunate that any country feels the need to have nuclear capabilites. everyone knows that Isreal has them, but a blind eye is turned - well, just because it is isreal. Iran and North Korea are loose canons and I do believe that they need to be "policed" to ensure that the lunitics running the asylym don't do anything crazy.
Actually, the US does submit itself to the IAEA for nuclear inspection as do the other recognized nuclear capable countries. That is, except Iran.
Mandi
lets put it simple,all muslim nations acquiring or boosting their nuclear capabilities or any other kinda progress in any field is 'A GIGANTIC PAIN IN THIER AS*ES' n thts it...
Exactly, US has no right to tell Iran not to own nuclear devices as long as it owns nuclear warheads.
US is developing nuclear bombs and have over 3000 nuclear heads!
what is the usefulness of reducing thier stock if they will have plenty anyway.
I don't think it is possible to get rid of nuclear bombs. The initiative of non profileration is a lie and is purposeful!
Just curious did anyone ever check US nuclear facilities to see what is going on there?
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
Dali,
Just wanted to share the following from your links with everybody:
"Even if Barack Obama were the most wonderful person in the world, he was groomed and brought to power by the global elite to carry out their agenda. Humanity must look past Obama and realise that presidents come and go but the shadow government and their program of global enslavement continues."
"How could people be so stupid and guillible to believe a punch of political people."
adey,
i agree that weapons must be reduced but it cannot happen if requests are not sincere. In other words, western governments are not willing to tolerate another great power which may reduce thier influence on the region- this is why. Iran is a signatory of the NPT.
Israel is not a signatory of the NPT but if the West is sincere, they should ask Israel dismantle let alone refraining from equiping them with nuclear reactors which they have done.
The GCC do not want Iran to get Nuclear weapons.
Iran is a signatory to the non proliferation treaty - so they have to stand by it. US and Russia have reduced weapons, UK is planning to. We need to rid the world of such weapons not let them become more widespread.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Curious, Thank you for posting a great topic.
The first link I posted is know, everyone including the UN turns a blind eye to it....The second link is more than a conspiracy theory, in my personal opinion.
Let's hope it's not treated with the same illuminated shrug, else we are headed towards a war with Iran within the coming detriment of us all
Israel vs. Iran in terms of nuclear capability.
Indeed I hate all wars and am saddened by the destruction and death that both sides experience.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Dali,
great links!
PM,
It is even much more than American relations with Arabs & muslims. I am referring to sincere Americans, British and others killed in Iraq or a similar causes for what has now been known as pack of lies.
I have said that all along.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I'm glad we agree again, PM. Any country owning nuclear weapons has no right to tell any other country not to have them. If they were serious they would be the first to abolish them. Otherwise, it's just blah, blah, blah. (And of course, based on mere military power).
have no right to stand against Iran trying to acquire it. The stance on Israel is just hypocritical. My country needs to stop backing Israel. I believe doing so is to the detriment of American relations with the Arab and Muslim world.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Answers all found below:-
Who Created the Modern Day State of Israel http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=970_1251009340
The Obama chronicles &feature=fvst
But then I cannot use "fxxx" in any other context, and that would really be a pity.
Use superglue to join MD , from two word to single
"fxxx off" are two words!
WHO CARE NOW THE WORLD POLICE AND ALL, THEY BECOME POOR BECAUSE of the financial crisis
and this people not ready to stop the bldy Israel , just a single word ... fxxx off
Why does the world keep quiet about any country with nuclear capabilities? Guess why.