Why do we read Quran?
Why do we read Quran, even if we can't understand a single Arabic word???? This is a beautiful story.
An old American Muslim lived on a farm in the mountains of eastern Kentucky with his young grandson. Each morning Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Quran. His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.
One day the grandson asked, 'Grandpa! I try to read the Quran just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Qur'an do?'
The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, 'Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water.'
The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house. The grandfather laughed and said, 'You'll have to move a little faster next time,' and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead.
The old man said, 'I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You're just not trying hard enough,' and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.
At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty. Out of breath, he said, 'See Grandpa, it's useless!'
'So you think it is useless?' The old man said, 'Look at the basket.'
The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out.
'Son, that's what happens when you read the Qur'an. You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Allah in our lives.'
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH & His Family) says:
*'The one who guides to good will be rewarded equally'*
we should not be harsh here, its not the place to prove something wrong or right, just give ur views and thats all. btw i like this.
Supreme: good thinking ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I sent you a private msg with my response in it. I'm not transforming this forum into a personal unmannerly attack and counterattack.
Thanks for advice man.
What does it mean!!!!!!!!!!
I have proved that ur ID is wrong!!!!!!!!
AND again you are talking meaning less...........
What to judge in wrong statements...WRONG IS WRONG!!!!
And judgement is a big thing which requires time for serious subjects not for silly issues...
I read the story and I am begining to understand. I have never read the Qu'ran but this time next week I will have a copy of it in English in my hand from a kind person on one of the forums this week and so I agree, if you do not understand arabic, or at least read it in your own language. I am going to do both, but as a christian, well for now anyhow. Then I will appreciate what we are all dicussing more. However, I understand that even not knowing the words, I would be obayiing a commandment. In that act alone, I would be doing his will and opening the door to his voice. I guess that's my interpretation of it anyhow.
Oh so you are judging me now?
I really appreciate your comments, anybody of us can make mistake.............i was and am cool, my previous message was to "so called supremebeing". Actually instead of realizing the fact, he was trying to take it towards fun side.
All the best.....
Victor: You mean, we are imperfect so we make mistakes like all imperfect beings, only God is perfect ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Dear Qureshi,
Fine, cool-down; we are human beings and only human make mistakes.
I CHECKED AND CONFIRM THAT THE DICTIONARY CLEARLY MENTIONED "SUPREMEBEING AS GOD".
Request QL ID supremebeing to change or select another one as soon as possible
kinldy go to Jarir and buy Webster's 2 New Riverside Desk Dictionary look at page number 417........
I really feel sorry for both of u........
n ppl kindly chk dictionary n gain knowledge before writing anything...........
Thanks man for clearing the matter.
Purely my thoughts....regarding supremebeing as 'human' is the Best creation of God in all His worlds; hence could be called as "Supremecreation or supremebeing" created by God.
God is SUPREMO, Omnipower, Omnipresent and many more features...
LOL aDEY, must agree, it's a bite silly and could happen with any "revelated" religion :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
well the title of this thread is a bit silly after all.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Who takes the time to read the Qur'an will have the time to look into understanding it.
I like the story and it made sense. I just read it out loud to my mother-in-law and translated it and she smiled. So - its a good story with a lot to learn.
lol adey, wondered how long it would take for you to find this thread ;-0
I am sorry to say as well that, your acts & sayings are not matching.
If you are so curious about meanings of anything then Why did you chose your-self to be named as supremebeing.........May I ask you, which religious book allowed you for that?
As far as I know, this is the biggest sin in every religion for a human being to call himself as supremebeing. Because Supremebeing is only, only & only The GOD.
By the way if you are aware of sound energy, you would realize the effects of vibration creating waves....which is the way of transferring energy which contains certain messages.
Quran is full of Prayers & seeking help and blessings from Allah, so whatever you read would definately be beneficial for the one receiting it.
@ X-Ray,
Good story, let me tell you something more........once somebody starts receiting Quran, even without knowing the meanings, ultimately he will be curious for the meanings & will try to findout the meanings as well.
If you dig-out the stories, most of the scholers have their foundation over such pattern.
translated answer: - because the television is broken.
A poor joke but couldn't resist after being fed the line.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Adey: What do you mean?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
The telly's on the blink?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
it is the matter of faith, trust and belief; how strong your trust in GOD, which are generally in built and develope with your experience and age,
which is almost impossible to change.
Hope u agree with me
Thanks Victor, actually i like using Quran explorer, it has many language translations and i find easy to read.
http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/
God bless us all to follow the Right and straight path....have a nice weekend!!!
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
http://www.alahazrat.net/alquran/Quran/index.html
View in Arabic and English with verbal Urdu languages translation.
Mashalla tabarakallahhhh it's an amazing story.Continue...
Islam: A ringside view
Increasingly the battle lines seem to be drawn between the West and the Muslim world. As I am neither a Western Christian nor an Arab Muslim, I enjoy a ringside view of the events and thus the luxury of neutrality.
While the West considers the Arab world to be stuck in medieval times, where women are browbeaten and every man is a fundamentalist, the Muslim world blames the West for being oppressive and nearly Satanic; where women are loose and men exploitative.
The truth, as usual, lies somewhere in between. What needs to be acknowledged is that there is space for all, that each way of life is unique and must be respected. And that in this day and age we cannot live with a “my way or the highway” attitude.
It is my firmly held belief that Islam is one of the most misconstrued religions of the world. And I don’t think many in the Muslim world are doing much to educate the rest of world or clear the cobwebs.
Popular Perception Vs Reality
The two most misunderstood notions that have now stereotyped Islam are the concept of Jehad and the status of women.
The world considers Jehad to be a war that the Muslims wage against Kafirs(non-believers) in order to save the Islamic world from repression and to establish the order of Allah. Unfortunately, some Muslims do proclaim this to be their religious duty and are willing to go to any extent in the service of God.
Well, one version of the Prophet’s Hadiths(sayings) does indeed allow Muslims to take up arms. But the permission is applicable only to a Muslim state, and not just any bunch of mercenaries. Even when it involves the state, there should be a strong political motive behind going into the attack, and should preferably be done only in self defence; and that too as a last resort. So dialogue must be tried out first.
"The best (Jehad) is (to speak) a word of justice to an oppressive ruler." - Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 2040
Enlightened Muslim thought believes in a more esoteric version. Jehad, in the wider sense, is originally supposed to have been representative of the struggle that a man wages within himself. It is that perennial battle between our virtuous side and the malevolent. The idea is therefore to strengthen our own will power so as to make the correct choices and let right prevail over wrong; so that we in the end emerge as better human beings.
So for the justification that is given in the name of Jehad after every wave of violence, nothing could be further from the truth.
The second prevalent misconception relates to the position of women in Muslim societies. Most of the world feels they are a subjugated lot, not given their due and expected to be subservient. They therefore feel sorry for their state. Here I must admit that I myself am not sure whether women in Muslim societies share the Western empathy for them.
The first prototype cited by the West to prove the secondary status of women is the existence of polygamy. That a woman may have to accept three others to share her husband is an abominable thought. It is actually.
What needs to be understood is that Islam, though it accepts polygamy, does not recommend such an arrangement. A man is given the advice that he must treat all his wives equally, else it is better to marry only one.
Here I would also like to draw attention to the zeitgeist for such an edict. The Muslim man was allowed to marry multiple women at a time when most men were at war and therefore the women outnumbered men. That was one reason. Apart from this, many women also lost their husbands in battle. Unlike today, when women can eek out their own living, at that time women were not so economically independent and were therefore vulnerable to exploitation. In that scenario, sharing a husband with other women may have felt like a more respectable option.
What is also of significance here is the time in history. Prophet Mohammad lived in the 6th and the 7th Century. At that time, in most of the world, some form of polygamy or polyandry was perfectly acceptable. In that scenario, such an arrangement may not have looked so out of place.
The second impression pertains to the Hijab or the veil or its various versions. Quran only calls for women to dress modestly and not be unnecessarily provocative. Interestingly it also calls on men to treat women with respect.
“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty......And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms...." (Quran 24:30,31).
That they must be covered in a set format from head to toe is man’s construal. The aim was also to keep unnecessary male attention at bay.
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested" (Quran 33:59).
I do know for a fact that lot of Muslim women find a sense of security in their veil and think it helps them move more freely in public. But then there are women, like some in Iran , who do not want this to be binding on them any more. So here, I feel, we must leave it to the Muslim women to decide how best they feel comfortable and not impose our views on them.
The third relates to the one sided divorce system, where the woman is perceived to be at the mercy of her husband who by uttering the word Talaq, can discard her without a fair hearing.
The Prophet has in fact called upon men to treat their wives with due respect and love and never resort to physical abuse.
The Prophet Muhammad said: "The best among you are those who treat their wives in the best manner." - Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 217
Narrated Ayesha - "(The Prophet Muhammad) never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant." - Sahih Muslim, Hadith 1082
While the concept of divorce is present in Islam keeping in mind the realities of society, the idea is still to encourage reconciliation.
The man is undoubtedly given the upper hand, but divorce cannot be pronounced in a matter of minutes or in a fit of rage. Only when things have broken down to point of being irreconcilable can a man initiate the procedure of divorce. After having pronounced the word Talaq once, there has to be a gap in time, when he can contemplate his decision before he repeats the word the second time and then again ponders over it before he finally pronounces the word of separation.
The man cannot just throw the woman out of his house. There has to be a waiting period of three months, so as to ensure that the woman is not pregnant. This also allows things to cool down, and provides an opportunity for the couple to think over matters. In the interim if the two decide to get back together, the divorce is automatically annulled. Even in the case when divorce is the only way out, the woman is compulsorily given due maintenance.
Moreover it is not just that the man can call off a relationship; a woman too can initiate divorce proceedings against her husband if she is feeling suffocated in matrimony.
"And if you fear that they may not be able to keep the limits of Allah, then there is no sin for either of them, if the woman redeems herself with that" (2:229).
In the point that I want to make is that the world ought to know that the Prophet was ahead of times when it came to taking up the cause of women. The concepts of maintenance, giving rights to women to initiate a separation etc were avant-garde in those days.
Another ground breaking provision was that of including women in inheritance rights. Islam empowered women by providing for them a share in property, about half of that given to men. This ensured she would not be at the mercy of men for her livelihood and could lead a life of dignity. It has taken literally centuries, after the Prophet left this Earth, for us to start demanding a share of the economic clout.
The Prophet was also a catalyst in stopping the practice of female infanticide, when newly born girls were buried alive in the deserts.
The Prophet Muhammad said: "If anyone has a female child, and does not bury her alive (a pre-Islamic practice), or slight her, or prefer his (male) children to her, God will bring him into Paradise ." - Sunan of Abu-Dawood, Hadith 2443
In many parts of the world including India , we are yet to learn this lesson and continue to murder our daughters in the womb.
I agree with you Victor, although i dont understand most of whats being recited, i love listening to the Quran but i find when i listen to it online, with translations, i get the full benefits full from it.
As a muslim i beleive that when ever i will read Quran, it will be good for me...
I sense no freedom in what you meant...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
I absolutely agree with you but lets keep the reference to the story narrated above; where someone could not take away the benefits of Just Reading / Reciting the holy Quraan.
To understand and implement the rules, standards laid down in the holy book into ones life is the second phase.
Please note that none of the muslim never ever work ONLY with the translated version.
Trust u agree with me.....but again only need to experience this.....quite difficult to express in words
It saves you 'life lessons' somehow before you can actually get hurt by it, that's why they teach it at a young age to be ready when kids grow up...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
together as a family. the last time we finished one of my young children told me later "I don't understand it, but i feel good inside for reading it and being obedient to God" so there is good that comes from reading our scriptures. We don't have to understand it all, but we learn life lessons anyways.
Although its a nice story and true to a degree, but supremebeing is right, to benefit from the quran spirutually, it must be read and understood and its a duty upon muslims to learn Arabic to benefit from it. Otherwise, theres always translated versions.
I think I understand the Koran...what I don't understand is how one implements it in their everyday lives...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
When u will read Quran, you will understand.......the taste....The coal is referring here to the dirt on your heart and the cleaning of coal means to purify your life without u realising that you have been protected from all bad and sins.
One need to experience this.....quite difficult to express in words....
...but what he only wants is to clean the coal out of it?
I don't get it.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
I knew this story b4...
I’m sorry to tell you guys that I didn’t like the story and honestly I see that it’s meaningless. There is no point in reading what you don’t understand. And since when was reading what one doesn’t understand cleanses one’s soul. God gave the human being a brain for a reason, don’t you agree? If you don’t, read and UNDERSTAND the Quran and you’ll see how many times God asked the human beings to think and use the brain gift. Religions are not some rituals and secret magic words people … my point of view at least.
Mashallah... :)
nICE STORY COULD BE APPLIED TO ANY OF THE REVEALED RELIGIONS, BUT STILL NICE, sorry caps :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
such a nice story.thanks for sharing.
god bless u
Very good ..
Thanks for sharing...
Good one ..LOL
Moving on is simple; it's what you leave behind that makes it so difficult .
Alhamdulillah, Inspiring story
hmmm...still wondering what is the comparison between a basketcase of coals and an intelligent human being...
Thank you very much, It's nice story.
a very nice story , thanx xray
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Thank God....one of our member (Malabari) not seen luckly..
¶¶¶ I have a pair of eyes but I can't see U everyday...
I have a pair of ears but I can't hear U everytime....
But...
I have only one heart that remembers U
everyseconds......¶¶¶
thank you x-ray for sharing this beautiful stoty with us
Masha Allaha its amazing.
Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....
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its good story
Thanks.
Constant exposure to good things, no matter for how short a period, can only make us into better human beings.
a very inspiring lovely story.
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mmmmmm...interesting....
Masha Allah a very nice story. I read it somewhere else too but its always a pleasure to keep on reading these things
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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!