Especially to Malaysian
By haizazudin •
Asalamualaikom expat malaysia,
saja nk tnya pasai kehidupan kat sana even byk dah forum yg aku baca cost living kat sana mahai gila2.......byk yg berkisar pasai umah sewa mahai.....bleh dak aku nk tnya sikit pasai makan minum kat sana...mahai dak...budget2 la klu aku nih jenih mkan byak jugak...so nak tau la..slalunya hangpa blanja makan sehari brapa eik?....aku dpt offer keja ngan company minyak kat sana....tak pi la lagi...just nk tgk bubget idup kat sana bleh nak aku saving duit....nk tinggai keja kat sini pun sayang gak....bleh noo expat malaysia.....bg cadangan sikit(sory aku tulih lam BM..saja nk senang paham)
Pleasant Greetings,
After reading all the comments stated above, I am now thinking twise of my offer
I got a short terms offer for 5 to 6 months in Doha. This is what they are offering me
1st month QR10000
2nd month onwards QR12000
One(1) month’s transitional accommodation
$1,000 USD relocation allowance upon 1st month of arrival
$1,000 USD relocation allowance upon end of contract
one(1) round trip ticket to/from Doha return to your country of origin
Annual Leave – Thirty (30) calendar days
I will probably need a room for this trip. What is your view on this. Will I have savings with this offer.
Your thoughts and view is much appreciated.
Kaf,
Gaji U mentioned above + benefits dah cukup bagus...
Braperlah sgt nak spend utk makan sorang kan?
Minimum U boleh saving 15K sebulan tau...
Dah senyap dah forum ni..
..got offer as manager building services RM18K, all housing + transport provided, 2 paid home ticket, 24 days leave; single package..okay ka..?
kaf7348 my very first love!
Hi OrgPerlis,
Saya rasa kita sama batch pergi QP.
Same t&c.
Hope you can pm me your HP no. boleh la kita bincang kan destinasi kita...
tima kash byk byk
novita77 your right
please translate in in english....
saya baru dapat offer, nak tanya kawan2 cukup tak nak quit kerja dkt msia kalau offer QP:
basic 16K, house14K, transport 2K, dlm 32K mcm tu, anak 3 orang. yg sulung sekolah rendah (QP kata bagi terms cover school, medical & insurance; paid holiday 9 days) boleh survive ka tuan/puan semua ,dengaqnya rumah mahal, makan minum 3X kl. sangat2 appreciate you all punya comment, reasonable ka gaji 16k for qualified/chartered accountant with more than 10 years experience. terima kasih sekali lagi.
Hi, is there any malaysian working in Hamad Hospital as a nurse? Currently im working in NDIA project as an engineer and i wish to bring along my wife and 14 mths old son over to stay with me in DOha. My wife is a ICU nurse. So i wanna know roughly the package offer in Hamad for a 7+ yrs exp Malaysian nurse in ICU? Ive send in my wife CV and they want her to come over for interview on June. Need your information here.Thank you.
david
Salam Bro Abdullah. I am still in Malaysia. Will be going to Ras Laffan on 23rd May 2009. Just call me at 0192884736 for cups of famous black coffee with roti bakar at Bangi Kopitiam.. Bandar Baru Bangi.
Wassalam
hi all. I also got offer from qp sama as mr monas64. but i will located in doha. Very appreciated if mr monas can email me at [email protected] for further discussion on QP offer. tq
Selamat Datang ke Qatar. Kalu husband kerja kat RasGas, datang la rilek2 dulu kat Qatar ni...tak payahla pening cari kerja. Kalu rasa boring sangat, baru la apply kerja. Kalu ikutkan you punya pengalaman kerja, mesti no problem dapat kerja.
May be you wife could try applying for one of the many international schools in Doha. I am sure there's a demand for English teachers. However, the is a tendency for English teachers to be recruited from native English speaking countries.
its depends on urs ecperience,,,,as 4 me i get QR35k...keja kat istana as a executive chef
we are considering living in Qatar too. My husband got an offer from Ras Gas. I bersyukur saje...coz thats what he wants...The thing is....I have applied few jobs in Qatar too. Im 36 yrs old, 15 yrs experince in secretarial/bus. development field. Any chance for me? And even if there is...whats the max. salary should I entitled to demand for?
Appreciate your comments/advice. Have a nice day ya...
Salam untuk semua Malaysian Bro. Recently I was offered by QP to work with Ras Laffan Industrial City Department
Package offered:
1) Is there is any malaysian already joint Ras Laffan Industrial City Dept? Appreciate if I can get their contact..
2) Where is the recommended town to stay.. since it seems that there is no housing estate at ras laffan? looking at location close to malaysian community.
3) My wife is an English teacher. Is there any chances that she can get job as a teacher over there?
5) Is it easy to get international school for our kids ..?
Thank you.
Monas64
Selamat Sejahtera semua ,
Nak minta pendapat semua . Berapa yang perlu saya minta utk jawatan Ketua Jabatan dalam divisyen Kewangan di sebuah syarikat GLC Qatar . Saya berpengalaman selama 12 belas tahun dalam berbagai industri . Mohon bantuan.
Terima kasih.
badrulhisyam
Actually, I just landed here two weeks ago for 6 mnths assignment with vodafone.
So, feel happy sebab ada org malaysia. Harap2 dapat jumpa la nanti.
Anyway, saja nak tokok tambah.. Sini accomodation quite mahal la.. kureng sket jer dari dubai. Makan boleh tahan lagi.. yang lelain tak tahu..sebab i duk kat hotel.. malas pening2 kepala.. end up i check-in hotel for 3 mtnhs...
For those nak dtg sini. kena carefull la, if u deal dgn agent, make sure everything stated dlm offer, ckp mulut tak mau dengar... jgn dah resigned kat m'sia.. duk sini hidup melarat pulak.
sekali lagi.. salam semua..
For yr info Noble-man...I'm a chartered Accountant (FCCA & CPA(M) plus MBA(FIN) plus SAP Certified Consultant in FICO))....
thanks Noble-man...appreciate the feed-back
Thanks!
I am a Malaysian and I have stayed in UK, Switzerland, Hong Kong, China, Japan, and Singapore. I had travelled to most countries around the world for my job.
In my opinion, Qatar is not that mahal as compared to other developed countries. It is, however, expensive compared to Malaysia/ Thailand/ Indonesia. Or perhaps Malaysia is cheap compared to others.
The problem is Malaysia's currency and salary structure. In Singapore, a fresh graduate gets S$2,500. In Malaysia, a fresh graduate gets RM2,500. A new BMW 3 series in Singapore cost S$140k and a similar car cost RM330k in Malaysia (i am talking about comparing apple to apple, ie both imported BMW). A locally assembled one (CKD) is around RM250k. so, figure out yourself...who has the bigger purchasing power, dollar for dollar?
So, rental and food and car....are all compartively similar to developed countries. To compare the salary you need here, do not benchmark against what you are earning in Malaysia...but what you would earn in Hong Kong or Singapore....
Email me if you wish to know more.
Also I am looking for lots of SAP staff.
Depending whether you are Chartered or not.
Malaysians holding Senior Accountant posts di sini (12 tahun pengalaman) dibayar gaji basic sekitar QR 23 ribu sebulan.
So what is the best salary I can ask for if they give me chance to nego???? BTW, thanks Noble-Man
Basic salary QR 12,000 sounds to me like gaji for fresh grad kat sini, not for Senior Accountant.
Basic salary for my senior clerk in my office pun dah cecah QR 10,000 sebulan.
Dr Azhar e-mail's address : [email protected]
Assalamualikum semua
just nak tanya sikit.....I baru dapat email dari QG utk Senior Accountant position. Offer dia QR12,000 plus trnsp. all + house provided + medical + child edu +air ticket once a year. Is this a good offer? I'm married with a daughter aged coming to one year. since ramai dalam forum ini tgh dan telah bekerja di sana mgkn boleh tolong ttg qn ni....really2 need your guys/girls help. thnx in advance.....my email address "[email protected]"
Thank you.
Salam.
I'm looking for my former lecturer in University Malaya now he's working in Hamad Medical Centre. His name is Dr. Azhar Abd Aziz, an A&E specialist. Anybody got his email please PM me? Thanks.
salam dari doha...
i baru je kat doha...baru 3 month..with Qatar Airways...
dok baca all the comments...memang dok sini mahal..makan mahal,rumah mahal..sekolah mahal.
Allhamdulilah i dapat good package from Qatar Airways(QR)..Rumah dapat...elaun utility /sek anak/transport dapat..after 6 month confirm...tiket flight murah...bayar 10% je...but standbye la...kepada yang nak datang tu pikir la betul betul if setakat offer ciput tak payah la.
at least biar berbaloi..rumah paling busuk 6k tu pun flat 2 bilik...so kalau offer 15 k sebulan umah tak dapat dah hampir separuh gaji...sewa umah,,,
anyway life kat msia 100 kali bagus...but gaji tak la macam kita dapat kat sini...
so...moral of the story tepuk dada tanya selera...
assalamulaikum..
saya baru dpt offer dekat RAs Gas juga....
plant dekat ras laffan........
package mcm kat bawah nie.....
I'm a Malaysian, w/ wife and 2 kids and RasGas offer me the ff:Salary-QR6200, Transport Allowance-1,300 Location Allowance=630, Housing-7,300, Furnishing-27,000, w/ medical and dental care, annual leave tickets for employee and family, educational assistance w/c include annual registration & tuition fees & QR375 per child per month. My Salary Grade NSS 10. i would appreciate if you can help me to decide if these benefits is enough for me to save some money and live a comfortable in Qatar
Nak tau samada ok tak package yg diaorang bagi nie...
dan ada soalan2 lain sama...
1. Mcmana keadaan kat san..ok tak...??
sebab ko baru sampai sana....jadi kot2 boleh \komen sikit..
2. Berapa OT dia orang bayar..???
3. Selalu ker kita dapat buat OT..???
4. Kalau saya dept Maintenance, ok ker...
position diaorang offer Instrument Tech....
ada OT tak.>???
maaflah...aku tak ada sapa2 dekat sana yg kenal...
mmg lone ranger la nie...
Hi Noble--Man .. a thousand tq for your reply!! .. at least that could explain why i was told 1,2or3 months..it makes more sense now with ur reply ;)
yeah, hasn't resigned yet actually ... but u know, when there s a new offer on hand, for definite current work performance isn't that good..and was thinking a holiday off before i go over.. life in M'sia is quite messed now..government stopped quite lots of major oil&gas projects..things r all dangling there without progress..
its only political issue now..byk roadblocks,ceramah+'roadshows' recently kat KL ni.. most not posted on media.. siggghh..
Welcome to Doha..at least ko ni dah sebelah kaki kat Qatar...Aku dulu pun ngan AP gaks..memang AP ni slow sikit...
AP sedang communicate lah ngan QP...AP pun dapat commission bila berjaya hantar candidate kat Qatar nie.....ko tunggu je la...QP HR akan Check Medical Report ngan panel doktor QP kat sini...bila dah OK..dia akan apply Multiple Entry Visa..(mungkin 1 atau 2 minggu nak dapat Visa)...lepas tu hantar elektronik tiket kat ko...kat sini kena medical check up lagi sekali kat Hamad Hospital, Doha..
So..banyak lah benda nak disettlekan....
sembahyang hajat jer...minta dimurahkan rezeki...
Good Luck!!!
It is Summer Holiday here now, so things are slow, till end August. And September will be Ramadhan followed by Eid (Hari Raya) Holiday. With their pace of work don't expect things to move fast.
Anyway, I'm sure they have prewarned you not to tender resignation until they tell you to do so.
Hi all kawan2 Malaysia sekalian...im new to this thread...n i'm about to relocate to Doha..working for QP..
asal dr KL..
ingin tanya sikit pasal recruitment from AP Recruitment in KL... i got the offer letter last week.. and after completing all the embassy and medical thingy, they hv no definite answer of when will i be departing and start work in Doha..their answer is not very supportive la..they say perhaps 1 month, or 2 or 3.. depending..
Does any1 has idea with this??? approximate what is the duration that i have to wait for the working visa and such until i can depart???
anyone here in this thread working for QP???
Idup Man U.....
Yer ker?aku dah decide nk pg gak sana..so,wut ever yg berlaku ketentuan allah..thanks for everyone in this site..Jugg76..leh la pm aku.bertukar2 pendapat...or mail [email protected]
Idup Man U........
KAmpung boy, awak penyokong Man U ke??? Bogster dah ada kaki nampak he he h e
It appears to me that Al-Ahli Hospital is becoming more popular among Malaysians for O&G cases.
Normal delivery there can cost about QAR 10,000.
Azmil Mustapha (Ali Setan) yg baru datang Doha 3 hari lepas kan ke tinggal di Syria....hantar ler e-mail kat dia minta tips.
Hi sahabat, Sapa yang dah pegi Syria,nak mintak tips skit,I plan nak pegi cuti ke Syria dalam 3 atau 4 hari, return ticket dari Doha 1000 rial.Visit visa kena apply dulu ke atau cam Qatar, automaticlly dia orang bagi visit visa 1 bulan.Syria ok ke ?
Have you tried using search? I found more than 15 post on "pregnant" in this QL. Cuba try....hope this help.
Chief ....nak anak angkat tak?muhahahahahahaka leh tolong spendddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd kan...muhahahahka
Carik sendiri belanja sendiri laaaaa wey....
Kat sini jer Cip Cip susah nak abiskan..........kat mesia hmmmmmm duit Cip laju jer.........tapi ok laaaah.Cipkerja pun utk keluarga so let them speeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnd
BORN TO BOWL...........FORCED TO WORK
Cip...meh sini aku tolong abiskan...muhahahaka
Assalamualaikum,
InsyaAllah saya akan ke Doha akihir July ini dan akan bekerja dengan UPDA. Boleh sesiapa beri nasihat on medical facilities. I'm pregnant and my main worry is which hospital to go to. Kalau yang bekeluarga ada pengalaman yang boleh share to ease my mind of this issue.
Thank you
Normally,kalau agen QG tak dpt contact thru telephone,they will send an email.Nowdays,agen QG hanya terdapat somewhere kat UK je..takde lagi kt Msia.
Sori khairul sbb menumpang post khairul.
Nak minta tolong dan tumpang bertanya, last week dan baru sekejap tadi my husband had missed few calls dari overseas, which we suspect nothing else than from QP or Qatargas. The number appeared in the phone is only 0301 or 0302. We have asked Celcom but they said the number is untraceable.
Shall you guys have information on email address of HR personnel from QP or Qatargas, please let me know or just PM me, we need to verify on these incoming calls.
Samekom,terus terang...kalau dpt offer [email protected] lepaskan peluang.Offer tu cuma dlm kertas saja...dah kerja sini baru tau berapa dapat tiap2 bulan...sure lebih dari yg di offerkan.Insya'allah.Kalau dpt offer mana2 dr QP,dah kira bertuah.Rezeki kt sini sentiasa ada..no tax pulak tu..hehehe
Dok Malaysia. Jangan mai sini. Gaji macam ni memang tak cukup langsung kat sini. Aku tak percaya yang depa ofer banyak ni saja. Tak mungkin. Sewa apartment 2 bilik pon dah QR8.5k apa lagi?
Thanks bro....
Tu ler..basic salary dlm QR 5.7k.allowance aku tak tahu apa lagi.maybe 2-3k kot.family pakej yg mcm aku ckp.just mintak opinion korang yg dah lama kat sana.aku nk bawa family (wife n anak).
Kalo ras gas bayo gaji camni...tak caya le...mungkin gaji basic kot sebab kalo masuk allowance mungkin tambah 5K lagi kot.Kalo masuk rumah & transport company provide tak apa gak tapi kalo tak masuk dan bawak famili kat sini cakap terus terang memang KONG le tak bole hidup tapi kalo dok sorang boleh bernapas lagi sebab ada ramai member dari philiphines yg berpendapatan camni bole idup selamba aje....hehehe.
I put up with them, you're right because I'm a very patient woman and because I'm very busy, no time for crap I let things go by but they don't leave me alone? so I learned not to put up with them anymore!
Hey! we wanted to go in Sri Lanka but things is not calm at this time so we decided to go to Thailand instead! My cousin told me it's lovely in Sri Lanka but I don't think it's the right time for us to go there.
Give my regards to your wife by the way.
Just keep dancing, it will do you good!!!
Total offer QR6-7k? Something wrong here...
i`m malaysian and get offer from ras gas dari AP recruitment.family package.housing,insurance,transport semua kasi.so,aku dapat offer total dalam QR 6-7k plus allowance.aku ragu2 lagi.blh ke nak survive kat sana with family..??
TOLONGGGGG..AKU BUNTU..!!
Cip... betoi you cakap... nak habihkan QR1k pon susah. Tapi kat sini sewa rumah dok naik tak tentu hala. Penin.
QR20K banyak tu. boleh bukak business kalau life camtu.
A boy from Kampung
waaaaaaa QTR4K a month?????? dahsyat tuuuu. Cip sebulan nak abiskan QR1K pun susah.
QR4k budget itself would seem luxurious for monthly expenses!
saya tak tau...saya cuma bertanya...
Mak Datok!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kalau termasuk house rental, car installment...food...utilities....a little shopping kira bagus laah tuuuu.
But if it is excluding housing..........man.......what a life you are leading???
Anyway the question posted just to gather information whether QR20k is luxurious or just ok, if it is luxurious, it means more saving can be generated.
10k QP would be plentiful for foods plus utilities with a family of 4 persons. ANything beyond that would be wasted in the desert. What is so luxurious after all? being able to spend more than others while NOT getting the right amount of satisfaction?
Just my 2 cents
Cheers folks
is it luxurious to budget QR20K for monthly expenses (excluding accomodation and transport) for a family with 2 children (toddler and baby)or just ok?
that is a 6 million dollars questions. It all depends on your job performance, qualification, superior, company, CONNECTION etc
folks, dont try to make things too complicated. From what I have read,
the figures below are pretty much in the ballpark.
Feel free to make comments if I m way off. Otherwise, they should give u
a very good picture as to where u are in term of living expenses and
how much savings u will be getting, if any at all.
1. Basic salary minimum 8k QP to have any "meaningul" savings at all.
2. 1 bedroom 4-6k QP, 2 bedroom 7-10k QP ,Preferable getting free accomadation from company as the cost
of housing rental is skyrocketing
3. Utilities - Electricity 100 QP, Internet 60-100 QP, water 50 QP
4. Foods family of 2-4 , from 2000 - 4000 QP depending on your life style
5. If got children under 18, ask for full support for children's education
6. Transport - 600 QP, if got car loan 1500-3000QP
7. Telephone 200-500 QP
8. Miscellaneous (household expenses- 500 QP)
Maybe wise to ask for end of contract bonus and make sure it is being written
on the contract. and ask for free round trip air ticket at least once a year to your home country. Plus, annual leave about 30 days
Will there be any room for promotion for senior exec/engineer expat in QP
or any aother oil n gas company in qatar?
Jom gi QBC petang esok. Cip kat sana latih main bowling Jommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jgn susah2 nak berlumba kemewahan kerrrr...lumba ateh jalan kerrrrr..............
Just live your life to the fullest here. Kalau setakat dok rumah fikir ini tak elok .. itu tak seronok......ini kurang ...itu kurang...kerja kat mana pun serupa je nanti.
Dok kat Camp...makan tanggong ...berak tong...tiap2 3 bulan balik kampong...LOL got rhymes wan lorrr.
Wakakakakakakakaka
Ramai org msia yg nak keje disini tp tak tau mcm mana nak rebut peluang sbb tu ramai yg masih terkial2 dan serba tak kena walaupun dah dapat peluang keje disini. Cuba kita tengok mmat pilipinos ngan sri lanka depa tak kisah sgt berapa gaji yg dapat walaupun sekadar cukup2 mkn aje depa belasah aje. Kerajaan depa galakkan depa merantau sebab peluang pekerjaan di negara mereka dah takde. Memang tak dapat disangkalkan kalu gaji setakat 4-5K QR nak mkn apa kat sini sbb sewa rumah sebijik pon dah dekat 5-10k QR. Kalau kawan2 pandai riki2 di sekitar little doha (musheirib) bawah kedai atas umah atau kawasan muntazah/fareej abdel aziz ada bilik yg bole disewa di sekitar 1-1500 QR sebulan. Bas mmg bnyk kat sini dan biasakan bejln kaki sebab bas stop kat sini mmg takde bumbung & tambang bas pulak sekali aje naik dah 3ryl.Apa yg penting jgn berkira sgt, kat msia pon keje bukan pon bnyk sgt dah....sebab tu kawan galakkan rakyat msia merantau di sekitar2 negara arab ni utk mencari peluang. Bnyk2 kan browse dlm internet dan survey negara mana yg nak tuju. Kawan dah dok kat Doha ni dah nak dekat 6 bulan, mmg le kat sini tak semeriah Kuala Lumpur tp apa bole buat yg penting niat kita dtg kat sini nak cari duit & tambah pendapatan itu saja. Orang2 Arab ramai yg suka kat org msia...tp hang pa kena buat baik le bnyk...walaupun setengah2 tu depa kutuk kita ckp Arab kita tak paham tp kita buat DEKKK aje...yg penting depa lebih kenal Dr Mahathir drpd kenal Malaysia.....Hidup Msia
wahai malaysian!
tipatipa nak balik undi ke? Kena cepat nanti terlewat pula. Undi dah mula kut?!
malaysian, ada sape2 yg balik mengundi nanti ke?
Aku dah jumpa ramai budak M'sia kat Qatar tapi tak percaya yg depa tu nak berlumba-lumba antara satu sama lain. Buat apa? Nak jadi Raja Kampung??? Kalu nak berlumba, challenge la Pak Arab kan? Pak Arab bukannya berlumba2 nak tengok sapa lagi kaya, tapi berlumba2 kat jalan tengok sapa lebih terra bawak kereta macam Michael Al-Schumacher Wal-Unta (Arab konon).
Kalu geng M'sia nak bawak Ferrari ka Lamborghini ka baru boleh tahan. Lepas tu, kalu kena tahan polis, kita tengok sama ada boleh makan saman ka tak! Ha..baru tau yang kita ni kat negeri orang.
Buat apa nak berlumba ? Kita kat negeri orang cari rezeki masing2. Therefore, aku tak percaya yang geng M'sia nak tunjuk terror antara satu sama lain. Kalu ada, habark mai kat Orang Kedah ni! Cuma, masing2 nak bawak diri kat negeri orang. Itu saja. Hidup Malaysia!
kucinta, = each to their own as long as they do not bother others,like the saying goes 'tepuk dada tanya selera' dont you think???
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Hi kucinta, bukan semua yg duduk villa, ramau yg sewa flat (byk save duit ni). Yg nak berlumba ada, tapi itu masalah dia oranglah. Kalau tak larat nak bayar 2 kereta, tanggung lah sendiri. kalau package dia power, go ahead, sebab memang mampu.
cakap melayu boleh, saya dah kat sini masuk 2 tahun, tapi saya dari jiran sebelah. Kenapa family m'sian yg kerja kat sini lifestyle mereka mesti nak berlumba-lumba dia antara satu sama lain. saya rasa semuanya dari QP.
yg single status tak cerewet kalau di bandingkan yg family. kalau yg family semuanya duduk kat Villa. Package bagus ke... Mereka nak duduk sini selama-lamanya ke. Maafnya kalau pertanyaan saya ni akan menyinggung M'sian kat Doha. Kalau saya holiday kat M'sia saya suka dgn perangai, budi bahasa org sana dari sini. Mereka lebih ramah. Kalau kat sini if u are not from QP or from any local co's tak pandang langsung.
pegi interview dulu...
kalu dh lulus...PM aku..
apa2 pun kalu ras gas....
mmg ok....
thank you org kedah , (just not a fan for causing 'friction'), la la la la la la
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Yup... you're spot on Spicemom.
each to their own, will it get us anywhere by discussing abt it??so wats the point of the discussion ?wont change anything for sure....>just my humble opinion
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Mai la kita sembang pasai topik lain no?
CIP,
OK, I hear you.
Can you do these 2 things please :
First, deny all those statements that I have made, say that all those being mentioned are not true.
Second, since those points I have listed are mostly the cons, why don't you list down the pros.
Everyone is entitled to his/ her own opinions, that has got nothing to do as the moderator for this Group. What I have said is what I have felt and experienced, without prejudice. If you have other opinions/ experiences, you are most welcome to share them with the Group and no one will stop you. I have got no hidden agenda but I simply don't want my countrymen to become disillusioned (as you said I am one of those who have become one).
Bro,
nak tanya range gaji operator utility RasGas.
sedikit masa lagi ada interview.
dengar cite all in...family also ditanggung.
So berikan sedikit feed back plzzzz
YESSSSSS hazli.......Ini dia the kinda spirits Malaysia really needs from her citizen!
QG is a great company. Heheheheheh not that I am working with QG I am involve with the RGX Project. Accomodation I think you got it. Datang kerja ada transport free lagik....Kalau bukan kerja shift start aro 7.30 pg balik kul 3 ptg.....kerj a5 hari seminggu...anything more is OT Hehehehe
Yes come forthe experiences. Hidup memang bolih hidup tapi jangan lah sampai2 jer nak beli Z4 laaaaaah 5 Series laaah....Benz laaah. Datang carik duit bukan membazir duit.
Anyway Hazli keep that spirit in you....when the going gets tough taht is the time you will know what you are made off!
Welcome to Qatar Bro! You will either stay at the Community in Al Khor or in Doha.macam mana pun you will be ok...I can sense it.
CIp doall the changing at Summit Subang Jaya. Go to see faizal at the exchange counter close to McD I get good rates from him. Late change in Dec was about RM950 to a 1000QTR.
Niih mid March nak tukar pagik tak tau lah berapa...mungking lagik bagus....RM dah inflate algik :-( :-(
Macam mana nak cukup????? Datang sini dah berangan2 nak pakai Merc laaaa BMW laaaaaaa? Wey datang kerja buat duit dulu laaaah baru merancang.
You sounded very disillusion! I am not seeing any positive response from you to those seeking advise.
Some of those who writes in are young in early part of their careers or just starting out.
I think that everybody knows that life is not all rosey but maybe some may wanna venture out and gain that experience. What you ought to be doing is give them the pros and the cons bukan tembak terus.
Kalau macam ini sampai bila anak2 malaysia nak belajar bersaing ngan bangsa lain?
I really dunt know whats your disatisfaction is with your life ...your work etc here in Qatar.
I have been here since September 2006, I have no complaints. I am inthe O & G industries...kerja macam kuli gak...........gajino complaints......accomodation OK......makanan...bak kata org makan tanggong berak tong...... banggun pagi gi kerja .....balik kerja bilik all cleaned up......tiap2 3 bulan balik jumpa family.......Tiap2 Jumaat drive to Doha....buang masa and to ensure that I am stiull a SANE person...kalau tak bolih jadik giler
Kita bila kerja tu NAWAITU mesti betul. Maybe you were expecting much more in what Qatar can offer you but found out differently. Came and found no entertainment that you enjoy in Malaysia......you felt free but not really free....etc....ect....ect...
What you get depends on the kinda work you do,the kinda expertise you have in you, the ammount of experiences that would come along with you. Kalau setakat okay dan tak okay berlambak2 lagi tenaga buruh they can get from India...Myanmar & Mamat2 Bangla.
I know that you are the moderator of this Malaysian Forum but please jangan bagi all the negativity that you experienced....give them pros and cons, and then let them decide for themselves.
Tapi kalau asyik bagi nasihat jangan datang.........takder lah anak2 Malaysia terutama nye anak2 melayu yg dapat bersaing dan belajar dari yang lebih arrif dari kita.
Jangan ambik hati bro nanti lekas tuer!!!!!!!
Love you Nobel :-)
CIP
Kalau ada Computer guna JUSTVOIP je......tipon Talian tetap(Fixed Line) tipon TM laaaa FREE je! Kalau calling2 mobile ke mesia Euro 0.02 per minit je
Zul,
Cip taktau ko krja apa kat sini dna ngan company apa. Gaji RM3000 + USD 50 sari ya???
Allowance tu ok laaah gaji tu kira2 tak berbaloi.Yet kalau ko fikir RM 7 ~8 ribu tu is more than you can get in Mesia terpulang laaah.accomodation tu mungkin tinggal kat Camp laaah. Tenggok pulak ko kerja O & G ker or just general contractingatau pun ko kerja ngan company Mesia yg ada project kat sini.
berperasaan gundah...jika kau tahu apa yang dicari...........
A'kum, nk tanya pada sesapa yang tau salary structure utk Utility/Power Operator utk RasGas??? How much should I demand? What more should I ask?
dont come to qatar, hopeless state..
life is too expensive and you pay toooooo much for everything.
Hai..
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Sekian.
Lovely people like Thailanders. I just met a Malaysian couples with 4 children recently, they are both very sweet, soft spoken and very polite indeed. they just arrived here less than 2 weeks and I think she's also a member here. but they had a problem which schools to put their children. so if you could possibly alarm your fellow country people to check on line and enroll their kids in advance before coming over and to inform them too, to get themselves an International Driving License as they cannot convert their Local driving license here.
Judge not! that you be not judged!
Dear Fauz,
I'm in the mid of negotiate a job offer,they offer me with lump sum of QR 26,000 [same as you] per month. Need your feedback whether this the salary given is reasonable and able to survive with RM 10k saving or not.
Appreciate you can share your experience with me.
Assalamualaikum and hi to everyone...
Me another newcomer on this blog. Glad to see they are quite a number of Malaysians in Qatar. Also very thankful that i manage to find this site. At least i can gauge what to expect once i am there later...i just accepted an offer from QG, tried to nego with them to increase the basic salary but to no avail. Nevertheless, the package looks reasonably attractive, looking to put aside savings of at least RM5k/mth...To do that, i don't think i can really live like the expats here in Malaysia. Bottomline is looking forward to a new experience since i am still 28 and a long way to go insyaallah...
Keep the comments rolling. ciao!
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Forever Man Utd Fan!
Askm and hi to all of the Msian expats at Qatar.
Just wondering if someone could give an advise where is the best rate to do the money exchange from QAR to RM.
Or perhaps bank or money changer at Malaysia give at better deal or using other tricks by buying the travellers cheques?
Any advise is welcome and thanks
I need information from Malaysia working in Qatar..I was offered a job in Qatar..I have read a lot about the cost of living in Qatar from this website. What I would further like to know is the Cost of University education in Qatar as my company will only provide education fee untill 18 years. Appreciate your feed back.
1500 car loan, tengok ler kereta apa
Maybe old mercedes, around 20-30k, how's the maintenance rate there? expensive?
Petrol ?
how much per litre? Last time when I was in Jeddah, KSA, only 96 cent/litre, diesel half of that. Subjected to working distance from home
School bus ?
Still not sure where I'll stay, my working area is in Ras Laffan, any advice?
Eating out ?
Once or twice a month, shouldn't be a problem
Wife's salary ?
Fulltime housewife, Negotiable....hehehehe
Maid ?
Fulltime housewife...how much average rate over there for a maid? Indonesian?
Clothing ?
4-6 month interval..still ok, how's the rate over there compare to Malaysia? Better buy from M'sia, isn't it?
Thanks....
4000 groceries, for family of 5 like yours....reasonable.
8000 house rental, ok
1000 water, electricity, tel, internet, ok
1500 car loan, tengok ler kereta apa
Petrol ?
School bus ?
Eating out ?
Wife's salary ?
Maid ?
Clothing ?
Malaysian friends, will appreciate your comment;
Cost of living in Qatar
Monthly expenses:(QR)
4000 belanja rumah/dapur
8000 sewa rumah
1000 bill utilities
1500 kereta installment
14500 Total
Does the above figures roughly correct?
Qatar dilemma....
Thanks.
Hi all,
Just came back from swampy site in suriname. scary place.
Thanks for the reply ey.
Yeah, it will be QP.
you guys know smtg?? the housing allowance that AP/QP offered me previously was QR2000. But after making some noises to them based on the points extracted from here, later they came back to me saying that it will be QR6500 per month and another supplementary about QR4000...and QP will increase it some more. So, total will be +/- 11k then. Hopefully, I won't touch my basic to pay for the rent/ car. meaning more saving=shorter stay=big smile. :)
what d U guys think ?
Hi,
Any of you Malaysians work for Qatargas?
I have received an offer and would like to receive views on working in Qatar and for QG?
What is living in Al Khor like?
I have read about the difficulty on getting places in schools.
What is the situation regarding schools (primary) - places, standard of teaching, etc.
Cheers!
Series3landy ... are you/your husband going to work for QP ? If your husband is QP senior staffs there is QP housing compound in Dukhan. Have its own shop, school and swimming pool.
If you are junior staffs, there is flat for its staffs somewhere nearby. But i never been in the junior staffs housing area, so cant comment much on it.
believe half ofd what you see and nothing of what you hear
Dukhan life is limited to QP dukan people. To go to Doha 100km. No housing Dukhan if they kick out after 2 months. Must stay in DOHA AND TRAVEL TO WORK EVERYDAY.rent 2BR F/F apartment QR 7500 in Doha. not a pretty site to drive from doha to work to reach there at 6.30am.
Hello people,
I'll be coming over to dukhan within 2 months time.
How's life over there ?
Is there any pre-school facilities somewhere nearby ?
Then, after 3 months, I'll be chased out of the company-provided house. is it easier to get a house over there ?
What's the rent figure like ?
There are alot of worrying insights from everybody especially on the increasing inflation rate.
well, the bottom line is how much can we safe per month....
looking forward for comments/ opinions.
Thanks.
I plan nak g sana. I just got the offer fr Rasgas. Agak2 gaji QR16,000 + QR10000 (housing) boleh buat saving ke?
How's rasgas compared ngan QP? Kat rasgas ada bagi annual bonus tak? macammana dengan International school paling dekat if I stay kat al khor?
Kat sana women senang ke dapat kerja? I ingat nak bawak my wife skali but then she has to quit her current job? She is a dentist. Kat rasgas ada dental clinic ke?
Tq in advance
Saya dah duduk kat Doha ni dah setahun lebih dan saya dapat buat kesimpulan duduk di Malaysia adalah 1000 x lebih baik di atas sebab-sebab berikut :
1. Sewa rumah tinggi yg melampau lampau
2. Kadar inflasi yg terlalu tinggi. Kenaikan gaji tahunan tak boleh nak catch up dgn inflasi
3. Yuran sekolah anak-anak pun teramat tinggi
4. Exchange Rate yg semakin teruk. Setiap kali hantar duit balik Malaysia saya rugi 10 %.
5. Hidup di sini teramat amat membosankan. Tak banyak aktiviti boleh buat dan tak banyak tempat boleh pergi, terutama masa Summer ni kena banyak berkurung dalam ofis/ rumah.
6. Health support system kat sini tak berapa bagus. Hospital kerajaan cuma ada satu je kat Doha ni. Saya dengar banyak kes-kes pembedahan terpaksa ditangguh sebab Hospital Hamad tak cukup katil/ kapasiti utk menampung jumlah pesakit yg ramai
7. Orang-orang kat sini memandu kereta macam orang gila. Semua bawa kereta macam tak sayang nyawa.
Saya rasa ramai orang Malaysia sebelum datang sini kelabu mata sebab dapat tawaran gaji tinggi. Tapi bila dah datang kita dapat nampak realiti sebenar. Dengan kadar inflasi yg tak terkawal, gaji kita sebenarnya semakin mengecil. Apakah berbaloi semua pengorbanan kita utk datang ke sini....saya rasa TIDAK !
hai,selipar burruk!...
Nama you tu x sedapla nak panggil..hope you change to nicer name..are you working there or just accompany yur hubby?..what kind of work you or hubby in?...
hope you will tell more stories...thanks
hi all....i'm a new comer here...dah dok kt Doha nih for 5 month and tpt nih mmg membosankan..lucky i dtg ngan my hubby..but still dia sendiri pun dah bosan kt sini..so sesapa yg nk dtg sini get ready to tinggal kan happening life kt m'sia..
Thank Xelull,
you dah explain quiet details pasal life kat qatar.I'm very pleased to have all those informations..hope you share more ok!
Tell me about working culture...How's working culture out there?challenging ke,under pressure ke xde pressure? my fren in Abu Dhabi quiet pleased with his new job at Abu Dhabi gas plant,kate die keje kat situ is more specific to what he previously had..also he had ample time to do some ibadah etc where in M'sia you work till end of your prayer time. camne pulak people out there?are they friendly to us?Ade sape2 ex PETXXXXS especially dari LNG or gas plant,please give your experience kat sini bole la tau apa perkembangan kat sana.....thanks a lot friends!!
Opportunity is when something coming to you at the right time and right place which you cannot resist it for the world
I don't think the airport is a problem. I have brought those to Qatar before. Anyway I also check around just to make sure.
Thanks,
Just make a list which movies and I'll get them for you.
How's the situation of DVD copies at the airport?
In Oman and Saudi I remember they gave us a lots of fuss even with Audio tape. I'll ask around!
The truth is difficult to deny!
Can u buy some DVD's for me.
Don't worry! I've been in Thailand before for a holiday with my hubby. we've been to Ayuttayah, Chang mai and Chang rai. I love the country men. Thailander are lovely people! I'll talk to you again when we have definite arrangement on where to stay and where to go.
Have a nice day! regards to Mrs.
The truth is difficult to deny!
aamlae,
Whether 15 k or 20 k, or 40 k, it is all relative.
The main concern is the House Rental. I suggest you go to www.gulf-times.com, check the Classified Section where you can find a lot of adverts on houses for rental. That will give you some ideas on how much it costs.
There is 1 grand diamond factory in BKK and 1 in Phuket. Both are genuine and certified by the gov. Just ask the hotel u r staying to arrange for a visit to diamond factory. Factory will arrnge a limo for you to go there and come back irrespective of you buy or not. no obligation of any kind from your side. Try to take a side trip from Phuket to Koh Samui. U will love it. paradise is thd word. last I was there on 2002. now not so sure about present day enviornment. When in Phuket keep your hubby away from Bangla Road. :)
maybe i pegi sana 3-4 bulan lagi. still considering. main concern now is cost of living.
ada yg ckp sewa rumah 3k-4k je. ada yg ckp 7k-8k. mana satu yg betul ye?
kereta - price range mcmana ye?
t.kasih...
Noble-Man
so, what's a good salary for anybody to live in qatar?
will 15k to 20k be good?
We'll land in Bangkok then explore Phuket. any tips where to find it?
Thanks Buddy! let me know when your wife have spare time so I can meet her with her driving problem anytime.....
The truth is difficult to deny!
Kiarajane,
Thank you for the compliments....Malaysians are the cool and calm lots.
Actually we try to be rationale all the time. If we simply get emotional and defensive, we tend to not think logical and objective.
which city u r going to
Do you happen to know a reasonable diamond shop in Thailand? Which town etc. That's all I'm interested in, I don't know where to find diamond shops there. Thanks in advance
Just keep dancing, it will do you good!!!
Jane,
The situation in Sri Lanka is not what media is portraying. Totally different. Thailand is an equaly good choice. Contact me for more useful information for both places. I am a veteran of Thailand. Lived there before.
Few things to make sure you'll get from ur company to come here;
1. Accomodation (separate for family not sharing basis)
2. Medical claim/ Insurance
3. Education for Children
4. Flight ticket home (annually) * still ok kalau tak provide..
Those first 3 things are the highest cost ere (generally in Middle East). If they don't offer you all these but giving you salary range of RM15k-20k per month, still won't be enough!! So.. stay in Malaysia.. and be thankful ;)
If they offer all of those and give u yet a salary range of QR10k and above.. baru bleh consider.. but 10k pun nak save tak sebrape la.. dapat la save lam 3/4 ribu kot??
A decent furnished apartment je dah cost you at least RM7k/month!
A nursery/pre-school mite cost you RM2k/month!
Makan luar - darab 2 or 3 la.. depends on place.
Tgk wayang pung darab 3!!! (menyampah tul!)
Brg2 mentah.. lebih kurang la.. tapi kalau import, mahal nak mati..
Brg2 elektrik, slightly muraher sini.
Kete - murah la.. mane de tempat kat dunie ni harge kete mahal dr malaysia! hehe
Brg2 baby - darab la 2/3 kali gande.. siut tul..
Ape2 pun, set ur mind, coming ere, the cost will be 2 or 3 times higher when u were in M'sia for sure!
Transportation - taxi is very hard to get, the official is Karwa taxi..but not that much.. people often go by taxi sapu, depends on distance.. starting price QR15, can go up to QR35 or more (sebab dieorg blasah je kan). So, baik beli kete je la.. senang cite
Ape2 pun goodluck la...
I'm ere from Nov 2006. Still ok and surviving.. but miss Malaysia soooo damn much!
I Mahal Kitha you. (The way u putting up a fight with others) :)
I have lots of Malaysian clients and they seems to be cool and calm. question for Malaysian people please tell me, what's the weather like on month of July and August in your country?
Thanks in advance!
Just keep dancing, it will do you good!!!
and maybe hati-hati means sharing?
hi to all malaysians here at QL
Why you're hacking this thread? hi! hi! hi!
I think some of their dialect is the same as in tagalog.
Just keep dancing, it will do you good!!!
yes the food is mahal.
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Hello...
Kepada org-org yang nak dtg ke Qatar ataupun mana2 tempat kat Middle East ni...kalau dpt offer from Malaysian companies, kena hati2 skit. Allow me to share something with you. I am a Project Manager in Abu Dhabi and based on what I observed, company Malaysia yg menang projek di sini sbb harga depa murah. Depa tak sedar bahawa kos nak bawak buruh asing kat sini mmg melampau-lampau and gaji profesional kat sini mmg tinggi. Jadi ia tidak berbaloi lah kalau nak dibandingkan dengan nilai projek yang depa menang. So, depa offer orang Malaysia yang berada di Malaysia dengan gaji yang tinggi skit dari Malaysia. Kalau setakat bayar gaji RM 3-4k, saya rasa baik duduk Malaysia ataupun kerja dengan company Eropah ataupun Arab...
Kat sini rumah and food mahal. Seriously....
Nice one Noble-Man... heheh
so not worth it for me to go there?
the amount offered is quite tempting, but then there's a lot to consider...
Nixter,
Hujan emas negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri.....siapa kata kat sini banyak emas ? Dari Malaysia nampaklah macam emas, bila dah sampai sini semuanya "gold-plated".
Assalamualaikum semua...
my ofis mate ada bagi tau pasal satu offer kat Qatar, so I thought i'd do some homework first la pasal Qatar, esp cost of living, dan terjumpa this particular thread by fellow Malaysians for Malaysians... :)
anyway, for info, saya kerja sebagai IT consultant - SAP/ABAP technical consultant, dan offer yg saya dengar tu about 450USD/day, about 9000usd per month. rasanye currently accomodation/travel not included. but still negotiable. it's with Atos Origin ME. still don't have all teh details yet.
so nak tanya lah kawan2 yg currently kerja kat sana - berbaloi kah saya ke sana and leave everything that i've already accomplished here (almost everything) and relocate there for a few years?
from most of what I gather, accomodation there can be very expensive. camne dengan preschool? anak saya baru 5 tahun (very hyperactive).
and how's medical insurance? how much can I expect to save with what's being offered?
malaysian community dah ada kat qatar... that's a plus point already :)
kata orang tue2... hujan emas negeri orang, hujan batu negeri sendiri... bawak balik emas banyak2... heheh
thanks semua otai2 melayu qatar...
wassalam...
Nik
Assalamualaikum...
Memandangkan banyak response jugak kat sini, i nak tanya jugak laa.. berapa biasanya depa bagi utk expat position? let's say, senior expat staff? just nak tau, and nak compare dgn apa yg depa offer my husband..
thanks..
Assalamualaikum,
My husband got the offer to work with Rasgas power plant. He would like to go yet I refuse because I'm a working woman. Going there meaning that I need to quit my job. So now I am looking for a best reason why I need to go there. Dzul92 gets more salary than my husband,accomodation,transport...yet Noble_man said it is not good enough. Does the cost of living in Doha is much more expensive compared to Al Khor ? Should Rasgas provide everything,how much cash we need to spend in a month for utility bill and food?
Anybody living in Al Khor community? Please anybody kindly help me. If my husband go, sooner or later I need to go too..to support him...I am so afraid that I'll be gambling my son and daughter's future. I'm so confused.
good for u if u dont come with that salary + allowance. very hard to live especially if u have family. keep on searching.. mana tahu ada rezeki nanti.
Its USD50/day.. sorry
Thanks bro.. I was planning not to come.. My parents kept pressurizing me to go.. They dont believe the living cost there is high..
1 more thing.. Is it true that the cheapest accomodation (old flat, 1 room)u can get is QR4000/month? And utilities QR1500/mth ?..Are they practising double standard? Coz im sure there are poor Qataris and with that rate.. sure kaputt man.
Thanks again
RM 50/day OR USD 50/day ??
Even if it is USD 50, USD 50 x 30 days x 3.47 = RM 5205/ Month.
In total, you'll only be getting RM 8505 per Month.....
My frank advice, DON'T COME ! You will regret for the rest of your life !
Akum and Hi everybody..
I need some advise from u guys..
I was offered to work in Doha recently and i accepted.. They dont giv me time to consider as they say it is urgent.. Then few days ago i found out about dis site n after reading some post i'm already scared to go..
ok.. i got an offer RM3300 basic + RM50USD/day.. acomodation provided transport to and fro workplace provided..
So is the package ok?.. for ur info i got wife and 2yr old daughter in Msia n i need bout RM3200 put aside for family,rentals,loan,etc. in Msia..
Is it advisable to bring them over? My company provide accomodation for staf onli..
How much is the roaming rate to Msia? I use maxis..
Thankx
The subject is "Especially to Malaysian", meaning he wants to talk to his fellow country people, like one of the thread "Para sa mga Pinoy" topic which is for Filipino when they ask help for "Kabayan" (fellow country people)Don't worry Haizazudin can survive, see? he has some reply from his own people in Malay dialect? He maybe he's just hesitating to talk in English as he is comfortable to use his dialect. maybe that's all it is.
Anyway, how's your social life with QL member? I saw in your post that you come to meet them personally. I am very busy running around doing things and friends are quite demanding to drive them around as they don't have car yet. I drive them crazy too! whenever they are moaning I just make them laugh. at least they forget their moans if they are with me. I only meet Han19 and she's very nice and sweet type of person, just as she was like the way she comment.
Just keep dancing, it will do you good!
here...
Then regret all the way. Then as usual human beings will adapt and make the best of it...its his 2nd week here...
So don't be duped till you feel the confidence, if this co. is sincere they will fly your husband in for interview and get to know the place. If not forget it.
I definately agree that back home is 100percent better. But salary is an issue there. pros and cons...need to weigh...
hope you will make a sound and wise choice...
aufviedersehen
Satria, actually the agent juz told us that my hubby's position was changed from Senior Foreman to General Foreman.. The worst case is that the agent just gave us 1 single sheet of paper to sign, and the rest of the document will be received upon arriving. We feel like it was a trap.
By checking other agencies in the internet, found out that General Foreman qualification is only High School Certs, but my hubby is in exec status. Even now I keep thinking... not to go to Qatar.. too risky...
Haizazudin.. correct.. that agent is from AP.. not transparent enough ... disclosing some informations.. hm... we better find other jobs though...
Nurol
why you writing in malay? you should write in english ... if you can't converse in english how on earth you can survive living in Qatar???
why you writing in malay? you should write in english ... if you can't converse in english how on earth you can survive living in Qatar???
sory..my BM tak tera sangat...cannot get what u are writing...just teka teka...
sbb aku nih single..means klu aku dpat puluh2 ribu cam satria ok gak la...rasa2 cancel la kot...aku dok kat malaysia nih pun dh bhagia....even gaji tadak la smpai puluh2 ribu cam satria...watever...setelah aku dok baca suma2 forum..wat kajian skit...nampak gayanya..indah khabar dr rupa....
Nurol..u punya hubby tu musti agen dia AP Recruitment kan...dia le tu..cancel le p...
Bole I tanya sikit?
Banyak sangat ke sewa rumah kat sana? kalo kompeni tu bagi cam QR3000 cukup tak?
Lagi satu kan.. sebab hubby i cam x percaya ngan agensi yg nak bawak dia tu .. dia dapat sykt minyak gak.. mula2 dapat senior pas tu dapat cam general foreman je.. pelik la.. berubah2... tak tau la mana satu yang betol.. cam tawar hati je nak pegi no...
Haizazudin.. I dengaq yg balik dari qatar .. balik m'sia beli umah ngan kete cash lagi... maybe gaji ribuan kotnye.. ntah.. ade kata ok ade kata x.. depends on where u work kot//
Nurol
Haizazudin, aku dok kat sini dah setahun. Aku pun kerja ngan syarikat minyak kat sini. Rasa kau tak payah datang le, tak berbaloi. La ni pun dah ramai yg nak cabut balik. Hidup kat negeri sendiri 1000 X lebih baik.
satria,
tima kasih...kalau kl aku slalu abih 15 inggit sehari..means lam 30 gak nooo...ok la tuh...tp yg mahainya rumah la noo...
believe half ofd what you see and nothing of what you hear