Portuguese traditional music "Fado"

one more example:

Is this her latest?

http://www.amazon.com/El-Corazon-Tiene-Tres-Puertas/dp/B000Z8LULA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1246483523&sr=1-2

Salam

Ok, :)

Will let you know when she releases a new one or want the name of the last one?

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Very kind of you indeed. Don't worry about me, I know how to navigate my way to get my music..:)

Salam

Happy: If you want i can send you her last release

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I knew I had it in me, Fado music that is..:)

Thanks for the post.

Salam

Happy: Yes, she's the most famous fado singer from the new generation of fado singers

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I'll check it out, she's a great vocalist and a talented musician.

Salam

yes Dulce Pontes is one most recognized singers of portuguese tradicional music. She also recorded an albun with Enio Morricone, you might enjoy it!

Dulce Pontes, is this name familiar to you? I like her, she sings in native Portuguese, it sounds Spanish to my ears, sometimes.

She paired up with Italian Andrea Bocelli in "O Mare e Tu", she grabbed my attention ever since.

Great post.

Salam

sorry guys

wrong link

this is the one:

or search youtube for: fado portugues

Desculpem... baralhei-me!

O Fado nasceu um dia,

quando o vento mal bulia

e o céu o mar prolongava,

na amurada dum veleiro,

no peito dum marinheiro

que, estando triste, cantava,

que, estando triste, cantava.

The Fado was born one day,

when the wind barely blowed

and the sky extended the sea ,

on the side of a sailboat,

inside the chest of a sailor

that being sad, sang,

that being sad, sang

You can find a modern version of it in:

or search youtube for: gaivota amalia hoje

lol, that's because we are very similar to them, if you see my granny pic, you'll notice that she has the same curly hair and darker skin that all arab or berber woman has

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

de facto muita gente aqui em Doha se dirigem a mim em arabe!

Well, same happened to me in Casablanca when i was dressing a traditional morroquian suit :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

you are right, there is not a straight line between portuguese and arab people, but we certainly share a lot, including language!

Imagine how would it be possible to have arab culture for 400 years, and not have genetic heritage in our days...

In a recent visit to doha, I grew my beard, and everebody would speak to me in arabic... people were hard to believe I wasn't arab.

besides that, just until 500 to 300 years ago we might have kept some genetic and cultural exchange as we had a continuous trading presence in Barhain and Oman, just before the british assumed a stronger presence.

Thanks vortice, someone once said here at forum that the portuguese aren't descendent from arabs, so i went to "Google" for arabic influence in the Iberian Peninsule and found out about fado and traditional arabic music :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Bem, em ingles por cortesia aos restantes leitores:

Well, returning to the first message: fado and tradicional arab music, at least they both share the several time repetitions of the same frase in different tones, and the same kind of voice. They are in deed very similar, as result of 400 years of arab culture under bagdad califa and then cordoba califa.

Portuguese are a certainly a unique blend, celtic, romans, visigods, arabs, african, south american, indian and far east.

Abraços!

Peace upon you.

lol :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

eu diria?

que diria eu?

LOL

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

Yeah, além de termos sido a 1ª aldeia global do mundo ;)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

A nossa historia e uma caixa de surpresas,e para ser sincero fonte de orgulho.

sempre um prazer descobrir algo mais

keep cool

Check mate.....

Rassadko,

Admiro os teus conhecimentos de Historia, congrats!

Obrigado :)

thanks :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Precisamos de outra Alcacer Quibir, mas em vez de deixar-mos la o Rei, traze-mos a Rainha

Good luck Platao

Check mate.....

Rass: her familly wouldn't allow it

janey: Mozambicam beats are completelly different from Fado but all Africa has nice beats.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

This is our late pearl in the portuguese Fado

have a look

Check mate.....

Estranha forma de vida

Antes da cultura arabe ser assimilada pelo islao, nao passavam de grupos belicos isolados.

O Islao veio ajudar e evoluir toda esta cultura, nao atrasar.

O problema do mundo arabe foi o fundamentalismo cristao, ou seja...nos, que atacamos e destruimos, e mantivemos esta cultura, sob o dominio ocidental, atravez da repressao e violencia ate finais da II Guerra Mundial.

Unicamente como sendo mais evoluidos e unidos com o Islao que os africanos, ou Sul americanos resistiram muito mais.

Nao seja-mos tb fundamentalistas

Check mate.....

Mozambiqan beats are really nice to listen to!!

Hi

Why don't you get married in Portugal, like that you don't need to be converted.

But there is some kind of contradiction in one thing, despite your comments, you still sign in arabic.

Deviam manter a dialgo em ingles, uma vez que ninguem vos percebe, e nao vais aprender grande coisa assim.

Check mate.....

lol, yeah, mas como nunca fui religioso e tb sei que os muçulmanos aqui em Portugal são diferentes dos de aí.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

cuidado!

:)

Tambem admiro o Budismo.

A questão com a conversão é a merda da lei de Marrocos e a estupidez de a familia ser tão importante no Islão

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

A liberdade aqui (no forum e no pais), e' condicionada.

Entao nao te podes casar com a tua namorada sem te converteres? E porque nao ela se converter?

Na realidade nao e' necessario, cada um pode conservar as suas conviccoes religiosas. Tenho pessoas na familia com casamentos cristao-muculmano e nenhum dos 2 se converteu.

Pessoalmente, nao pratico nenhuma religiao mas respeito as conviccoes de cada um, desde que estas nao se tornem invasivas e agressivas, o que infelizmente e' muito frequente ver-se nos que practicam o islao. Talvez nao seja inteiramente culpa da religiao em si, mas das interpretacoes fanaticas.

qq dos modos acho que a religiao deveria ser algo de pessoal e nao show bizz que e' o caso de muitas.

aqui e' um horror constatar o desrespeito, abusos, mentira, agressividade, racismo, sociedade de classes com quase escravos, etc... e o contratste da obcessao em manter uma fachada hipocrita e puritana de "praticas" sem qq valor espiritual ou aplicacao pratica na vida. aqui a verdadeira religiao que comanda a vida e' a sede pela ostentacao e o material!

Vivi alguns anos no sudeste asiatico, onde sao mais visiveis o budismo e derivantes do confuciocismo e taoismo... religioes que se apresentam respeitadoreas de todos e sao praticadas de forma intima, pacifica e nao invasivas...

Transmitem a qualquer observador, de forma passiva, uma serenidade, paz e calmaria. Sente-se uma certa espirituualidade sem que os praticantes nos forcem a pratica-la ou a percebe-la.

Tornam-se assim atraentes aos olhos de quem as nao conhece e estejam em contacto proximo com elas.

Aqui, esta religiao e' precisamente o contrario, agressividade e hipocresia imperam. Todos julgam todos, por isso nao se torna atraente aos que nao a praticam, chegando por vezes (sem o querer) criar repulsa.

Se necessitasse de praticar uma religiao, talvez optasse pelo budismo... uma filosofia que se aproxima dos meus valores.

Lol, vivo em Portugal mas a minha namorada é marroquina, se decidirmos casar terei de me converter e vim aprender mais sobre a cultura árabe :)

Podemos falar de religião, somos livres para o fazer no forum ;)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

concordo contigo!

concluimos a conversa por aqui, pois aqui nao nos e' permitido verbalizar e compatilhar em publico, pensamentos desse genero.

ja' a "nossasenhora" diz e com razao:

"Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another."

e por essa analogia, nunca vi tanta gente tao "pobre", como aqui!

PS. So por curiosidade, vives em Portugal, nao e'? O que te levou a participar neste forum? Estas a planear vir para o Qatar?

Sim, mas a questão é que quando os árabes começaram a ficar para tráz foi quando começaram a practicar exatamente como tinha acontecido quando o Maomé era vivo e foram sempre vivendo de acordo com essas regras e nunca evoluiram

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Uma questao interessante, seria a de analizar a cultura arabe antes e apos o islao. Decerto poderiamos concluir que a introducao do islao veio a afectar em muitos niveis a essencia dessa cultura (bem como todas as outras religioes o fizeram noutras culturas).

Exacto, a questão não será exactamente a religião mas sim mas a própria cultura árabe. Os muçulmanos na Europa são diferentes dos dessa zona.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

E fizeste muito bem....

As raizes poderao ser as mesmas... mas a forma como evoluiu o fado (liberto na sua forma de se exprimir, na forma de amar) nao tem nada a haver ( e ainda bem) com a realidade castrante que a religiao introduziu nesta cultura!

Thanks El Zohiry :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Lusitano : Sim, tens razão, mas como li que o fado está de alguma forma ligado à musica tradicional arabe decidi dar uma oportunidade às pessoas de o conhecerem :)

Translation to english:

Lusitano: Yes, you are right, but i read that Fado is connected, in a certain way, to arabic tradicional music, i decided to give a chance to people to know it.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

i like this....

Eu diria que e' necessario trazer na alma, uma bagagem de seculos da nossa cultura e existencia, para se poder sentir o que e' o fado!