Salary Question - German Expat
Hi everyone,
I am 30 yrs old with 7 yrs of experience in telecomm engineering and living in Germany. I have received the following offer in Qatar for a senior engineer position:
Basic Salary
QAR 19,745
Housing(Single Status)
QAR 8,000
Transport
QAR 2,000
Communication Allowance
QAR 750
Total of Monthly Compensation Cash Components
QAR 30,495
In addition - non-monthly cash components :
Furniture Grant(for 4 years; amortized @ 40% for the first year & 20% for the next 3 years) QR 25,000 onetime payment after probation period
QAR 520.83 per month
QAR 6,249.99
End of Service Benefit(Gratuity) for every completed year(one month basic salary)
QAR 1,645.41
Is this a good offer? I am worried about the housing allowance as I may get married soon but they refuse to change the allowance if my marital status changes. How can I start the negotiation. I really appreciate your help ..Thanks
Hi, I think that the package is too low. You will leave you country for a 13000Eur more than your current annual package?
Believe, I worked in Germany and I know what I m talking about. In your package you don't have the monthly retirement amount so when you come back to your country you have to pay to cover all the period out the country
Hi ... The HR person int eh company says he cannot offer me what I expect because they already offered me the maximum in my grade ... is this true that salary grades at companies are not negotiable or it is a trick from the HR person? thank you
Thank you
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Hi, I'm new to this forum, and I'm in the middle of negotiations myself. We are in different industries, but refer to the Robert Half salary guide in the attached link to find your benchmark. http://www.roberthalf.ae/
They topped the basic salary to 22,509 QAR ... my lower limit which I find fair is 25 000 QAR .. Should I negotiate further or they may drop the negotiation? any experience and words of wisdom are welcome .. thank you
They topped the basic salary to 22,509 QAR ... my lower limit which I find fair is 25 000 QAR .. Should I negotiate further or they may drop the negotiation? any experience and words of wisdom are welcome .. thank you
They topped the basic salary to 22,509 QAR ... my lower limit which I find fair is 25 000 QAR .. Should I negotiate further or they may drop the negotiation? any experience and words of wisdom are welcome .. thank you
OK ... I am puzzled now, they do not pick up the phone, they promised they will check how much they could increase and call me back (was last week) but they did not. I also wrote them an Email but no reply .. is this normal in Qatar?
It's not really an increase in salary when you add in the cost of living in Doha and all the intangibles you lose by not living in Europe - such as retirement, health care, education for children, etc. The rule for expats is current salary plus 25% plus housing, education, transportation, etc, etc.
thats a great offer .. take it .. 8000 is enough for a 2 bhk in doha .. where do u wanna stay .. the pearl or what ... even after ur wife comes in .. how many rooms will u require for just the 2 of you ... go for it .. u save more here .. so dont compare the salary back home and here ...
Unfortunately is not that easy ...
You have nothing to lose. Try it. You can leave anytime if you feel that the package doesn't fit you.
Hi everyone thank you for your feedback, I am a bit confused. Well for the housing allowance they cannot change it as it is fixed for singles but they promised once my status changes they will change the allowance. They are very strict and not willing to negotiate much (seem there is a long waiting line). It is a new small national company but not in mobile telecomm, more a specialized field. All in all, I am feeling that the base salary is low, I asked for 10 000 QAR increase per month, they said max what we can get may be 3k - 5k but there is no guarantee we will check ... i am desperate to move to the middle East into such a role (it combines business and engineering) but I know Qatar is not like Dubai, life is different, and for this small salary increase I am having the feeling that it is not a good deal ...
May i know that local telecom company name? Because me also trying a telecom job here. And I have 6.3 Years of experience 2G,3G and LTE. In Ooredoo and Vodafone we need to apply through online only. Apart from this two companies pls any one knows inform to me.....Please .....
Being single, It will be very hard to negotiate a different package even if you say that you are planning to get married in the near future. It is not because they don't want to, but because there are guidelines in their recruitment process which they have to follow. Don't worry, with the salary and benifits that you mentioned, I am definitely sure that it is one of the top companies here in Qatar. It will not be hard for you to ask for an additional housing allowance once get married. You will just be required to submit certain documents/requirements. Good Luck.
NB. did they refuse or they might refuse to change your housing allowance once your marital status changes?
I am 48. I get 40% less but I am Indian with Indian passport.
It all depends which company you are joining....
check the company well meaning type of company it is ?Are u desperate to come here?Also try in ooredoo,vodafone,oil & gas companies,Qatar rail,Jacobs,Hill International,Louis Berger.
iam 32 years with 12 years experience...and i do not even get half of what ur getting...But Alhamdollilah iam happy
even with good offer people are not happy
check Income tax liabilities for EU citizens. not much increase in salary.how many hours and days of working? you can check real estate companies-emadi,ezadan,barwa,alasmukh,Bilal towers for apartments/villas. Also QL. 2 bhk apartment will be at least 1000 sq ft.
How do you know that they will not increase housing allowances if you married ? Did you ask them ?
Hi Rambo31, how big is this appartement in Dafna?
Hi it is a local private company ... I currently work in Luxembourg and get about 88 000 Eur/yr which translates to 60 000 Eur, The Qatari salary in total including allowances per year is 73 000 Eur. Not sure about the tax but if I do not live in Germany I do not think I need to pay tax, currently I live in Germany but pay tax only to Luxembourg where I work, but that is EU ...
14000-18000 in Dafna/West bay.
Also astad/QP
How much are u getting now in Germany and compare that salary with Qatar salary?for a western expat it on the lower side? Is this company local company or MNC?Consider that rents are going to increase this year due to construction boom.do you have to pay income tax in germany for money earned in Qatar? If u are going to get a 50% net increase above german salary then u consider the offer.Try in MEEZA.
Other Benefits :
Annual Air ticket (Economy Class)
Medical Insurance
Furniture Maintenance annually after the furniture grant is fully amortized: QAR 2,500
Mobile Phone benefit : cost of handset : QAR 500
Bonus depends to the performance appraisal
No Taxes in Qatar.
Interest Free car loan
QSC provides interest free car loan of QR 120,000/- to be repaid in 48 equal installments(Policy Applies)
I still have no info about the annual leave and sick leave I will ask ...
Thank you toparagshah, yes there is a flight ticket back ... I am worried about the housing I read in expat forums you need for a 2 room appartement 14 000 - 18 000 QAR
do they give you return airfare to germany every year
also ask for medical and life insurance
any club membership
8000 housing allowance is ok for a single but for married its less. you need atleast 10-12 K. rent are increasing very fast here. what about annual leave and sick leave etc?
its Good Offer...
in 8000 you can get Even a Villa in Wakrah Ezdan Village....