Wow Caroline, Giasi etc I am amazed at some of the intolerant views on display. Disgusting!!! That is a word that brings up thoughts of hard line right wing politics or christian right movements.
Why on earth is it disgusting? Because you don't like it? Clearly such strong views are from an inhertited morality base with no intelligent thought behind it.
No adam and adam? Comments like that are borderline retarded.
Also the genetic, evolutionary theory behind homosexual "wrongness" is a dangerous route and suggests that sex is purely a procreational activity. Clearly for humans and some apes this is not the case.
Sexual activities provide a strong social bond and as such with intensely social animals like humans they can be used to reinforce these social connections. Chimpanzees use sex just like other apes use grooming to stregthen social bonds.
Furthermore proving whether something is nature not nuture is very very difficult as there are no humans who have not been nutured (meaning being influenced by their upbringing) but I think pure observation suggests that it is not a "choice". Pedophiles live in turmoil for much of ther lives trying to resist the illegal urges that they have. Clearly they have these urges, it is not because they are inherentely "evil" it is just that society (rightly in my view) does not allow them to follow this sexual orientation.
However some societies did. Just as some very enlightened societies considered homosexuality to be perfectly acceptable. Indeed the ancient greeks said that to love a man was the only way to love an equal.
I am not gay, not even remotely but I have absolutely no problem with someone who is. I also believe that they should be able to enjoy all the rights and privileges of everyone in the society in which they live.
I think an important step is to review words like immoral and ask what they really mean. What is it about homosexuality that is immoral? Is the answer "just because it is"? In which case it is just a legacy of some prudish upbringing or society. Is it because it is unnatural? Well who says? Certainly you cannot procreate through homosexual sex but does that make contraception wrong? Giasi is masturbation wrong? Ask Butterfly if sex with inanimate objects is wrong (this is one of your activities listed) i think the vegetable debate rears its head again.
Wow Caroline, Giasi etc I am amazed at some of the intolerant views on display. Disgusting!!! That is a word that brings up thoughts of hard line right wing politics or christian right movements.
Why on earth is it disgusting? Because you don't like it? Clearly such strong views are from an inhertited morality base with no intelligent thought behind it.
No adam and adam? Comments like that are borderline retarded.
Also the genetic, evolutionary theory behind homosexual "wrongness" is a dangerous route and suggests that sex is purely a procreational activity. Clearly for humans and some apes this is not the case.
Sexual activities provide a strong social bond and as such with intensely social animals like humans they can be used to reinforce these social connections. Chimpanzees use sex just like other apes use grooming to stregthen social bonds.
Furthermore proving whether something is nature not nuture is very very difficult as there are no humans who have not been nutured (meaning being influenced by their upbringing) but I think pure observation suggests that it is not a "choice". Pedophiles live in turmoil for much of ther lives trying to resist the illegal urges that they have. Clearly they have these urges, it is not because they are inherentely "evil" it is just that society (rightly in my view) does not allow them to follow this sexual orientation.
However some societies did. Just as some very enlightened societies considered homosexuality to be perfectly acceptable. Indeed the ancient greeks said that to love a man was the only way to love an equal.
I am not gay, not even remotely but I have absolutely no problem with someone who is. I also believe that they should be able to enjoy all the rights and privileges of everyone in the society in which they live.
I think an important step is to review words like immoral and ask what they really mean. What is it about homosexuality that is immoral? Is the answer "just because it is"? In which case it is just a legacy of some prudish upbringing or society. Is it because it is unnatural? Well who says? Certainly you cannot procreate through homosexual sex but does that make contraception wrong? Giasi is masturbation wrong? Ask Butterfly if sex with inanimate objects is wrong (this is one of your activities listed) i think the vegetable debate rears its head again.
Sex is social as well as procreational.