therefore it is an appropriate place to have this debate. I am not claiming that muslims are killing for the sake of killing. Some people who do this are muslims though and some are Christians or other faiths or at least they claim they are.

I also agree that the vast majority of muslims do distance themselves from this lunacy. Vega, I am not disagreeing with you over anything major but I don't understand why you are against this debate.

There is a lot of paranoia and mistrust in the world and muslims are bearing the brunt of it. A muslim friend of mine says that this is the fault of muslims because they are not making their position clear. Surely, if non muslims do appreciate the point of view of trues muslims this has to be a good thing. Hopefully, there will be less mistrust and paranoia.