True brit - I also dont want to go to a non religious purely Politically Correct, completly human rights society, where you go to jail for assaulting a burglar etc.

Both systems have their pros and cons and its taking the best parts. The simple concept of 'shame' does not seem to exist in the modern world and is all the more worse for it.

Great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ. (English Proverb)